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11-1-11, 12:10pm
Someone sent me these sayings indicating that they are based on history.
They make sense but are they true?

Where did "Piss Poor" come from?

Interesting History.

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot
and then once a day it was taken and sold to the tannery. If you had to do this to survive you were "Piss Poor." But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn't even afford to buy a pot --they "didn't have a pot to piss in," and were the lowest of the low.

The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be.

Here are some facts about the 1500s:

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,
and they still smelled pretty good by June. However, since they were starting to smell, brides carried a “bouquet of flowers” to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water,then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water!"

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof.

When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, "It's raining cats and dogs."

There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house.
This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings
could mess up your nice clean bed.
Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how “canopy beds”came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt.
Hence the saying, "Dirt poor."
The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing.
As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door,
it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.
Hence: a “thresh hold.”

(Getting quite an education, aren't you?)

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day.

Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while.
Hence the rhyme:“Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old.”

Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could, "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and “chew the fat.”

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years orso, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status.Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the “upper crust.”

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.

Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.

Hence the custom of “holding a wake.”

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin
and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (“the graveyard shift”) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, “saved by the bell,”or was considered “a dead ringer.”

And that's the truth.

Now, whoever said History was boring!!!?

11-1-11, 1:02pm
I check all these crazy e-mails at snopes.com as the large majority of these e-mails are false or largely false. I particularly hate the political ones, but sure enough, this one is there. it has been circulating since 1999


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11-1-11, 4:37pm
Oh, do I ever love this!!! Many, many times I have wondered about certain sayings and their meanings, so reading this and knowing exactly how a few came about is fun and interesting.

11-1-11, 5:52pm
I got a real chuckle out of the email but did not check with Snopes to see if it was accurate which I should have done.

11-1-11, 7:18pm
Thanks for sharing this!

11-2-11, 8:44pm
Oh, do I ever love this!!! Many, many times I have wondered about certain sayings and their meanings, so reading this and knowing exactly how a few came about is fun and interesting.

Oh, then Mrs-M, do I have a web site for you! :) http://www.word-detective.com/2011/10/23/catch-22/
I love it so much I get the emails each month from them. And I read every word - fun, entertaining, educational, what more does a girl need?

11-2-11, 10:03pm
Thanks a bunch, Puglogic! I've been scrambling around the house this evening doing a little of this and a little of that, trying to get semi caught up so I can settle down for the night, so this will be my tea read later on!

11-3-11, 8:09am
I love it! LOL

Simpler at Fifty
11-3-11, 5:07pm
We used to say 'they don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out'. My Dad had a lot of zingers. I remember some but most were lumberjack lingo and not something I could repeat here.