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  1. yes meanwhile while others let Darwin sort it...

    yes meanwhile while others let Darwin sort it out, some just fight for the chance that there might be a remotely non-terrible future for anyone who happens to be born now or anytime recently...
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    I went to a Japanese garden recently, it was...

    I went to a Japanese garden recently, it was fantastic, calming, changing one's whole point of view. Really liking that aesthetic.
  3. evolution didn't start today, if pessimism didn't...

    evolution didn't start today, if pessimism didn't have some evolutionary value, it wouldn't be so deeply wired in the human nervous system, but it actually is (not just some people's either. There...
  4. If people had kids when half of the kids died in...

    If people had kids when half of the kids died in childbirth and they did, AND when massive quantities of women died in childbirth as well (!), I don't expect them to stop because of what might happen...
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    Relief yea, though these drugs seem to make...

    Relief yea, though these drugs seem to make people into a type of zombie, seems to me, not in a real overt way, but is anyone taking them (forever) actually living a normal life? I mean they say...
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    I welcome my hate :)

    I welcome my hate :)
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    Carter was an ok president, though none will say...

    Carter was an ok president, though none will say he was great, whose presidency was caught up in and maybe doomed by factors larger than himself.
    Trump is NOT an ok president, and none will say he...
  8. I've never thought one should have kids in order...

    I've never thought one should have kids in order to make one's life worth living, always struck me as not a good reason to have kids. Too much of a burden on the kid if nothing else.

    As for...
  9. My partner and I never wanted kids in decent...

    My partner and I never wanted kids in decent parts because we had painful childhoods, we didn't like BEING kids, so that tends to not make one want to inflict eh childhood on anyone else and to come...
  10. there are lifestyle changes and there is changing...

    there are lifestyle changes and there is changing the ENTIRE of what one thought one's life would be. And that's what is hard and frankly I think extremely rare.

    I don't mean people who never...
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    If you only enjoy hearing from someone on the...

    If you only enjoy hearing from someone on the "opposite end of the political spectrum" when they agree with you do you really enjoy hearing from someone on the "opposite end of the political...
  12. The article was somewhat interesting, although...

    The article was somewhat interesting, although her description of how she would live life without kids made me think: "please, let me kill myself now". You will spend all your time fighting for...
  13. I think it's irrelevant, it really has nothing to...

    I think it's irrelevant, it really has nothing to do with why you don't want kids. And any woman you meet who doesn't want kids because climate change is probably not going to be into a lot of other...
  14. That's what I think, only I can't see why that's...

    That's what I think, only I can't see why that's not perfectly compatible with not having kids including for anti-natalists reasons among others (such belief one would be a bad parent etc.)
  15. but he is NOT all people

    but he is NOT all people
  16. I don't know, if you really find suffering...

    I don't know, if you really find suffering everywhere you might question if being born is worth it. But I really think there are strong childhood factors that figure in, if you were strongly...
  17. This is the kind of saying like if my grandmother...

    This is the kind of saying like if my grandmother had a @#$# she'd be my grandfather as I see it. There is no way for a population of 7 billion plus to reduce it's ecological footprint to zero. It...
  18. Depressed in a psychologized culture implies...

    Depressed in a psychologized culture implies there is a cure in the present. I think this is much more likely to indicate that childhood was hell, and so I rather doubt there is. I'm not sure there...
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    I think California is relatively low on mass...

    I think California is relatively low on mass shootings per-capita. But if the expectation is to easily achieve almost NO mass shootings, I don't see how that happens.
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    Oh when I've left a job for whatever reason, even...

    Oh when I've left a job for whatever reason, even involuntarily, I've been paid for untaken vacation. I thought you had to be pretty much(?). I just don't tend to use untaken vacation as a saving...
  21. If Democrats were willing to deficit spend like...

    If Democrats were willing to deficit spend like this they might be a great deal more popular than they are. Are they even interested in holding power?

    Trump policy is full stimulus of a...
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    I don't think there is ever going to be much...

    I don't think there is ever going to be much travel if I plan to go with my boyfriend. Though, I'm low maintenance and want little most of the time anyway, sheesh I dream just of taking the train...
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    ok he seemed assured that someone at work told...

    ok he seemed assured that someone at work told him they get statements at the end of the year.
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    Well interest rates had to be cut 3 times to get...

    Well interest rates had to be cut 3 times to get this record Dow, getting pretty low now (not much room to maneuver the fed says). And more deficit spending too. In a so called good economy, well...
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    We finished "Beyond Growth" by Herman Daly (no...

    We finished "Beyond Growth" by Herman Daly (no great novelty, but I often read real basic foundational stuff). I attempted it before, but this time completed it. Required reading for citizens of...
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