What if he really wins??

[CathyA]

Pence is such a dork. Whenever he's on the TV news, I just have to mute it. I'm just glad he won't be our governor anymore..........but he'd better not be our V.P. He's so full of..............you know what.

[freshstart]

I often hear this sort of thing from the left but I'm never sure what they're talking about. Can you give an example of a bigoted agenda?

just off the top of my head, when several states allowed Christians to not serve gays

[Ultralight]

Really? Can you elaborate?

Alan... when a liberal says "women's healthcare" you know exactly what we are talking about.

[freshstart]

Maybe we need a sticky pen for a thread about persecuted christians versus the rest of us, considering how often we slog down this road. It's not as though any of us are going to change our opinions on this topic.

then I'll drop it, sorry

[Alan]

Maybe we need a sticky pen for a thread about persecuted christians versus the rest of us, considering how often we slog down this road. It's not as though any of us are going to change our opinions on this topic.

I guess that depends upon your perspective, whether it's a whiny Christian or someone being denied their right to live by the tenets of their faith is a long standing discussion, and one without resolution even after being codified in the Constitution.

[Alan]

Alan... when a liberal says "women's healthcare" you know exactly what we are talking about.

Yes, I do. You mean being denied free contraception, which isn't technically health care.

[Geila]

Yes, I do. You mean being denied free contraception, which isn't technically health care.

It is if you're the one who has to grow, carry and deliver the child. Not to mention provide said child with food, shelter and health care for 18 years, more if the child is born with a disability that requires special care for the rest of their lives.

[ApatheticNoMore]

Alan... when a liberal says "women's healthcare" you know exactly what we are talking about

women not having easy access to prevent pregnancy on their end, and yet of course don't make the guy wear a condom it interferes with his pleasure afterall, and vasectomies are too scary so don't even think about suggesting it. But no implant/IUD/morning after pill/tubal for you! It's not really healthcare afterall.

[Alan]

It is if you're the one who has to grow, carry and deliver the child. Not to mention provide said child with food, shelter and health care for 18 years, more if the child is born with a disability that requires special care for the rest of their lives.

If I decide to skydive, is it someone else's responsibility to buy my parachute?

[Geila]

Yes, I do. You mean being denied free contraception, which isn't technically health care.

Given your argument, one could also argue that many things shouldn't technically be considered health care and instead be considered "lifestyle choices": viagra (duh!), cholesterol meds (just eat healthy!), diabetes meds (avoid sugar), blood pressure meds (avoid stress), etc.....

When dh goes to his doctor for a visit, his co-pay is $20, when I go to my ob-gyn my co pay is $50. Somehow my breasts and vagina are considered "specialty medicine" but his penis and testicles are not. Go figure.