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    Presidential Address Tonight

    I can hardly wait - lol.

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    Didn't listen - I'll catch up tomorrow. I'll read reports and transcripts, but I just don't want to hear his voice anymore. Ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creaker View Post
    Didn't listen - I'll catch up tomorrow. I'll read reports and transcripts, but I just don't want to hear his voice anymore. Ever.
    Thank You, Creaker. I feel the exact same way. I even tried to watch him last night as the banquet I was scheduled to work cancelled 75% of the temp workers ordered for the event - and I found I could not dredge up the emotional strength to listen to him. Just couldn't do it and figured I could read about it all online this morning anyway, thus sparing me listening to his voice. Rob

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    I thought it was a pretty good performance, sober, serious and yet uplifting. The extended ovation given to the widow of the Navy Seal was touching, the Democrats who spent the rest of the speech glued to their seats even stood for her.

    Given that it was The Donald at the dais, I was pleasantly surprised by a dignified presentation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I thought it was a pretty good performance, sober, serious and yet uplifting. The extended ovation given to the widow of the Navy Seal was touching, the Democrats who spent the rest of the speech glued to their seats even stood for her.

    Given that it was The Donald at the dais, I was pleasantly surprised by a dignified presentation.
    Unlike you, I was appalled at the grandstanding of the new widow of the navy seal. You could see the stress of it all on her. Previously, the seal's father snubbed Trump because he thought his son died in vain. I do have to agree though that I preferred Trump's TelePrompTer speech over his usual off the cuff blabbering. I was not uplifted by it however. He said what he thought people wanted to hear. When in reality he is working in the unprecedented buildup of the military, scheduling the elimination of the EPA and Consumer Protection agencies and looking at ways to cut COLAs for seniors... just to name a few things that will not benefit individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Unlike you, I was appalled at the grandstanding of the new widow of the navy seal.
    Isn't it funny the way different people perceive things? I know that people like Bill Maher and Michael Moore agree with you, but their moral outrage always seems a bit self serving. I was pleasantly surprised to see liberal icon Van Jones' take on the subject, I think he got it right:

    "He became president of the United States in that moment, period. There are a lot of people who have a lot of reason to be frustrated with him, to be fearful of him, to be mad of him, but that was one of the most extraordinary moments you have ever seen in American politics, period. And he did something extraordinary."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Isn't it funny the way different people perceive things? I know that people like Bill Maher and Michael Moore agree with you, but their moral outrage always seems a bit self serving. I was pleasantly surprised to see liberal icon Van Jones' take on the subject, I think he got it right:

    "He became president of the United States in that moment, period. There are a lot of people who have a lot of reason to be frustrated with him, to be fearful of him, to be mad of him, but that was one of the most extraordinary moments you have ever seen in American politics, period. And he did something extraordinary."

    https://youtu.be/KPhsSqXHRAs
    I saw that Van Jones comment and how he feels that moment made him a two-term president. Yes, it was a very moving moment, and Owens' widow deserved the ovation. But was this the only time a President paid public homage to brave Americans? I don't see how that one moment was the Presidential move of the Century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    I saw that Van Jones comment and how he feels that moment made him a two-term president. Yes, it was a very moving moment, and Owens' widow deserved the ovation. But was this the only time a President paid public homage to brave Americans? I don't see how that one moment was the Presidential move of the Century.
    Whether you think of it as a moving tribute or crass exploitation, it's really nothing new in the rhetorical playbook. I don't understand why this one instance is especially significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Isn't it funny the way different people perceive things? I know that people like Bill Maher and Michael Moore agree with you, but their moral outrage always seems a bit self serving. I was pleasantly surprised to see liberal icon Van Jones' take on the subject, I think he got it right:

    "He became president of the United States in that moment, period. There are a lot of people who have a lot of reason to be frustrated with him, to be fearful of him, to be mad of him, but that was one of the most extraordinary moments you have ever seen in American politics, period. And he did something extraordinary."

    https://youtu.be/KPhsSqXHRAs
    You are correct... it is funny how different people perceive things. Look up the word grandstanding. That is exactly what Trump was doing. I felt sorry for the widow. This is not what she needed.

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    I had planned on watching it, but after just a few minutes, I just couldn't continue. Who is this man? What does he really believe? Who wrote his speech or told him he was going to be in big trouble if he didn't quit acting like a spoiled brat?
    I just couldn't believe anything he said. He's a chameleon. I will wait and see if he can continue this "presidential" behavior. After his campaign and the past 5 weeks of his usual behavior, it was just impossible for me to believe his new presence.
    Time will tell.

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