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    New travel ban

    The new Muslim ban Is out, although they deny calling it that. If only Trump had consulted legal counsel and had a much better thought out and crafted ban the first time out there would have been way fewer problems.

    It it looks like there is much less of an uproar in the media and congress over it, as green card holders and those with Visa's will supposedly be able to enter. And it gives a week for training and clarification to happen before it is enforced. The biggest question is will it have any effect on terrorist related activity in our country, good or bad.

    I think this this has been a very valuable learning experience of our inexperienced executive branch. You cannot just wave a wand and make new policy. Now someone just needs to take his tweeter away.

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    Maybe people are relieved it isn't going to cause as much trauma as the first fiasco, but it still looks like an effort to reduce the dilution of the traditional white class with little evidence it will help national security.

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    Of course it won't bolster national security in the slightest. The "threat from abroad" is just trumped-up (forgive me) to divert attention from real threats. Like global climate change.

    Trump is the biggest threat to national security I've seen in my lifetime, what with his blustering sword rattling, byzantine Russian connections, and embrace of Breitbartian nationalism. He and his henchmen can't be gone too soon to suit me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Of course it won't bolster national security in the slightest. The "threat from abroad" is just trumped-up (forgive me) to divert attention from real threats. Like global climate change.

    Trump is the biggest threat to national security I've seen in my lifetime, what with his blustering sword rattling, byzantine Russian connections, and embrace of Breitbartian nationalism. He and his henchmen can't be gone too soon to suit me.
    It's impacting the tourism industry, though. People are afraid to come here. And it's going to affect a lot of jobs.

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    I think it's affecting the mental health industry, too. Suicide-related calls and psychotic breaks seem to be up; at least if my monitoring of police calls is any indicator. (Successful suicides too, sadly.)

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    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...visa-1.4011202

    Our border agencies are a mess. Now I really think the agents are trying to sc**w over Trump. I am totally embarrassed by the whole thing. If I lived overseas, I would not even try to come to the US until we figure it out. Why pay $$$ for the chance of being turned away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetana3 View Post
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...visa-1.4011202

    Our border agencies are a mess. Now I really think the agents are trying to sc**w over Trump. I am totally embarrassed by the whole thing. If I lived overseas, I would not even try to come to the US until we figure it out. Why pay $$$ for the chance of being turned away?
    It's one thing to be turned away - she was detained 6 hours before being turned away. Some folks have been detained and interrogated for hours. Who wants to pay $$$ for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetana3 View Post
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...visa-1.4011202

    Our border agencies are a mess. Now I really think the agents are trying to sc**w over Trump. I am totally embarrassed by the whole thing. If I lived overseas, I would not even try to come to the US until we figure it out. Why pay $$$ for the chance of being turned away?
    It is a little harder to want to visit than it used to be.

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    My DIL is from Poland and decided to get citizenship here instead of just a green card considering everything that is going on here. She will also keep her Polish one too.

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    I ran across this article a couple of days ago. If we go down the road with Bannon and Trump to an Aryan paradise, this is what we'll be missing out on: https://tinyurl.com/h8pqgh2
    And make no mistake, their Mexican and Muslim ban is just a taste of things to come. The dumbing down continues.

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