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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    That was definitely an oversight on my part. Clearly the crafty accountants come first, then the crafty attorneys. My bad.
    Thank you! Someday accountants will get the credit they deserve fo making civilization possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Thank you! Someday accountants will get the credit they deserve fo making civilization possible.
    My grandfathers were one of each; they would have made a dynamic duo. Both Republicans, too. Back when that was an honorable thing.

    You'd probably have an argument about which group made civilization possible: women, artists, farmers all have a claim. Muslims made numbers possible--or at least useful, so don't forget them.

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    And my Scottish clansman Napier invented the logarithm, so don't forget the Scots.

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    Edinburgh has a university named after him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    National Review published a wonderful, sputtering-with-indignation piece on this topic a couple of years ago.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rles-c-w-cooke
    "1. any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425799/socialism-united-states-meme"

    Last I checked it was pretty tough to distribute goods without roads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tybee View Post
    And my Scottish clansman Napier invented the logarithm, so don't forget the Scots.
    With all due respect to Laird John, it was a glorious day for me when I replaced my slide rule​ with a clunky Texas Instruments calculator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Muslims made numbers possible--or at least useful, so don't forget them.
    I thought they swiped the idea from some clever Hindu. Goes to show what a silly concept "cultural appropriation" is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Thank you! Someday accountants will get the credit they deserve fo making civilization possible.
    Damn straight! My dad was an accountant on the committee that created direct deposit. It was originally started by the Air Force to make it easier to pay far flung employees who might be in places without much in the way of banking services and families in other places. I'm thankful for this improvement to civilization 26 times a year when I don't have to go to the bank and stand in line for a teller to deposit 80 hours of life energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    National Review published a wonderful, sputtering-with-indignation piece on this topic a couple of years ago.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rles-c-w-cooke
    Agreed, lots sputtering with indignation in this article, but it really doesn't present a solid argument. It's just picking out what the author chooses to call socialism and what the author chooses not to call socialism.

    One can drag out a dictionary and argue semantics - but the real argument, I think, is what would work better collectively under government control and what would not. And some things do.

    Even the author argues that prisons need to be owned and run by the government - but in many cases they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by creaker View Post
    Agreed, lots sputtering with indignation in this article, but it really doesn't present a solid argument. It's just picking out what the author chooses to call socialism and what the author chooses not to call socialism.

    One can drag out a dictionary and argue semantics - but the real argument, I think, is what would work better collectively under government control and what would not. And some things do.

    Even the author argues that prisons need to be owned and run by the government - but in many cases they are not.
    I think he made a good point when he said:

    By pretending that all government action is socialism and that we are thus haggling only over degrees, the meme’s makers hope to imply that there is a certain hypocrisy at play. “Given that you support roads and the sewage system,” this line of argument goes, “one has to wonder why you oppose nationalizing the health-care system, as has been done in Britain.”

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