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    What difference has he made in your personal life? I have seen no difference in my day to day living.

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    What difference has he made in your personal life?
    In my family, we aren't getting together anymore. My sister's boyfriend, who has always been kind of obnoxious, is now in everyone's face spouting racist, misogynist, hateful rhetoric that he used to keep to himself. When we have to do family events, some of us make sure there will be others there, so that they aren't the recipient of this man's hatred. Since our leader in chief says these things, it must be ok, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    What difference has he made in your personal life? I have seen no difference in my day to day living.
    Stress with his foolish tweeting.... i.e. irritating the lunatic in North Korea is a PRIME example! I could go on and on but will leave it at this.

    I remember when Trump was running for Pres and he said "I could kill someone and they still would vote for me." The same mentality prevails now. No matter what he does you make excuses and say it is ok. Sick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    What difference has he made in your personal life?
    Dinner parties have become almost unbearable, what with everyone yammering on about Trump's issues.

    To be fair, at the big CIA/OSS shindig last week, they only mentioned Trump's name once, during the mandatory toast to the Commander-in-Chief, so that was a nice change. And the band was great!


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    any change in day to day life would probably be felt in the long term, so it requires thinking about the long term (well that is changes in POLICY, like undermining the EPA and it's effect on pollution and that effect on people over the long run. If it has made people's existing social life unbearable, sorry to hear it, though I don't tend to hang around with Trump supporters).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    You need to get out more. Trump supporters have never been happier. Itís not about him as a person......itís about making the establishment uncomfortable, if possible on a daily basis. His base is rock solid despite what you will read or see in establishment owned media.
    Do they realize that at 33% approval/62% disapproval that they have become irrelevant? For one wacky moment they took control. They got him elected. But due to his corruption/incompetence that moment has passed. And will never happen again. They can be as rock stupid as they want. But it's over. The only question now is if their stupid f'ckery will destroy the country before he finally goes away.

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    I am in the middle of a very pro Trump area. I know many people who still think he is the best thing that has happened to America. So I started asking them why. Here are some of their answers

    we need to deport all these illegal immigrants who bring or have babies here that we end up supporting. They put their kids in schools Taxpayers pay for, and drag them down by requiring special eel instruction. Their kids can get free medical care, free school lunch and food stamps and eventually end up in gangs. They believe many are criminals and drug dealers. As far as DACA, only with no chain migration. If you want to be with your family, go back to your home country. Also end the preferred visa program. Replace with merit based migration. Send us your smartest, most well educated and wealthiest. I might add whitest.

    Finally someone is sanding up to North Korea.

    Some believe our various trade agreements favor the other countries and that is why good jobs are so hard to get.

    He he needs to drain the swamp of all the special interest lobbyists. You will see a lot of this in the new tax bill. Many are lining up right now to harass the representatives they gave money to because they want their own little carve outs left in.

    Get rid of Obamacare and the mandate you have to have insurance as unconstitutional. Let free markets work.

    Death penalty or Gitmo for any terrorist type activity.

    Shut it down the NFL because they are not “patriotic enough” to fire the anthem kneelers, or so the draft dodger says.

    Manaforts alleged crimes are part of a witch hunt that has nothing to do with Trump. The real criminal, Hillary is running free.

    Twitter lets the president tell it like it like it is with the liberal media bias out of the picture.

    Leave our our guns alone. If you take them the police and military can take over at any time.

    Can i I see some of their points? At least some I can understand why they feel it is an issue. Do I agree? On very little. We need immigration reform. We need to sort out healthcare and tax reform. But my ideas on those subjects are vastly different than theirs for the most part. Plus I really hate the twitter thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    What difference has he made in your personal life? I have seen no difference in my day to day living.
    Probably 2/3 of the people I associate with are what some might scornfully refer to as "Establishment Republicans". There seems to be a fairly broad consensus that Trump is bad for the Party, both because of his personal obnoxiousness and because his inability to get out of his own way has made it so difficult to advance the GOP agenda despite decisive majorities at the federal, state and local levels. A great opportunity is being squandered. That affects us all. As one friend put it, "Romney is looking pretty good to me right now."

    On the positive side, the general perception is that the opposition has become so unhinged by Trump that they will be running against him long after he departs the scene. My argument has been that a boring, generic Republican could do very well against either a quasi-socialist or identity politics messiah fighting the last war (provided he or she could survive the primaries).

    Overall, he is viewed here as an egotistical incompetent but not some satanic figure summoning up demons and anecdotal nasty relatives from the infernal regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    What difference has he made in your personal life?
    He at least hasn't messed with social security or medicare and failed at Obamacare repeal. His tax bill is better than I expected even though it's digging a hole of debt all the way to China. Policy wise some of his cohorts in the primaries could have been worse. He's just a bad person.

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