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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Don't drop dead of shock anyone here, ok? My take is that at first, the election of Donald Trump did indeed boost the stock market a bit due to his rhetoric and the fact that the market loved his rhetoric. Now, however, due to his missteps and the lofty very hard to justify overvaluations of most stocks, Trump may very well be a net negative or rather a liability to the markets. I'd love to see the GOP explain it away if a Trump misstep caused a serious correction in the lofty valuations in today's stock market! They would be on the hook for such for some time. And I would not be surprised if such is indeed not far off.......Patience, folks, as I often say in conversations in the 85006 - our day is coming! Rob
    Rob, I recommend staying out of my zip code. You'd drop dead from shock at how much ardent support he has here. I think you are quite insulated from reality and the cable news networks and mainstream news papers are feeding your fantasies. All the best but you can't see the whole battlefield from your perspective.

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    probably not a neighborhood you want to set foot in if you are type of minority anyway I'm guessing.
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    Pence is even scarier then Trump because he knows how to get things done in a political system, he can speak decently and can appear to be more even keeled. As it is Trump can't seem to get anything done which is a good thing.

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    Sadly things are getting done, the appointment of 30+ Federal judges. The circus in the front is hiding the activity behind scenes that is setting the stage for a very conservative agenda. Pence is scarier because of his calmer appearance and he has "friends".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    Rob, I recommend staying out of my zip code. You'd drop dead from shock at how much ardent support he has here. I think you are quite insulated from reality and the cable news networks and mainstream news papers are feeding your fantasies. All the best but you can't see the whole battlefield from your perspective.
    Where I live, it's mostly middle and upper-middle class Republicans. Trump was beaten pretty badly in our primary by warm and cuddly Ted Cruz.

    Probably the commonest attitude here is "close your eyes and think of Gorsuch".

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    In the 2016 general election, my county went:

    Clinton 66.57%
    Trump 24.95%
    Stein 4.33% (Green Party)
    Johnson 3.73% (Libertarian Party)
    Castle 0.21% (Constitution Party)
    Kennedy 0.1% (Socialist Workers Party)
    Estela La Riva 0.1% (Socialism and Liberation Party)

    In the 2016 Democratic Primary the county went:

    Sanders 59.47%
    Clinton 40.53%

    And in the Republican Primary:

    Trump 70.73%
    Kasich 15.98%
    Cruz 9.91%
    Carson 3.38%

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    I have many friends/family in the MidWest and not one of them voted for the Orange One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    I have many friends/family in the MidWest and not one of them voted for the Orange One.
    That's not surprising. In Wisconsin, where you lived was a pretty good indicator of how you voted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    probably not a neighborhood you want to set foot in if you are type of minority anyway I'm guessing.
    Good point, ANM! Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    That's not surprising. In Wisconsin, where you lived was a pretty good indicator of how you voted.
    This holds true in Arizona, too. Of course the 85006 - and other zip codes closeby, too - held true to principles and voted for Hillary Clinton. I know the zips in the metro area that voted for Trump and while I don't go out of my way to avoid them, I make a little bit of effort to minimize time in them and when I am in a pro-Trump area, I am much more wary and on guard as I know I'm in that other country in which there is no real place for me. No way to put spin on that one, it just is so, and I'm a realist and can't not see that.

    Anyway, something positive though? When I travel to the Borderland, Santa Cruz County (tiny county in Arizona which has Nogales, AZ as it's county seat and is very heavily Hispanic) is as blue as blue can be and most (but not all) of Tucson in Pima County is, too. Once I get beyond Pinal County (Home of Paul Babeau if any of you know this controversy of the gay ex-sheriff of Pinal County and his Mexican boyfriend involving threats to the boyfriend with immigration if the boyfriend revealed Babeau's sexual orientation) I'm in very friendly country, even with Arizona being a red state.....there are swaths of it that are very blue, too. It helps to know where the blue is and to stay in the blue when possible, especially with things so unstable these days. Rob

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