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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    Didn't someone say, Ask not what your country can do for you?, but what can you do for your country.

    or something like that. What an idiot.
    I think you should do right by your country and your country's government should do right by you in return. Give and take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    Didn't someone say, Ask not what your country can do for you?, but what can you do for your country.

    or something like that. What an idiot.
    You sir, and I say this kindly as I can, would be seen as an idiot by the bulk of the 85006 for your both pro-American and also lack of basic human rights stances. Throwing out your rhetoric is fine but don't be surprised that many in the 85006 find it both ridiculous and humorous (and in a very dark and cynical way from the many who know to live in fear of America and all that America truly is) Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Always, always, always ask and demand what the country that is currently renting you can do for you, not the other way around. Luckily, this was drilled into my head at the age of 7 (this one my Mom wanted me to grasp early with all the willing victim of the lack of socialized medicine surrounding us in rural New Hampshire at the time in the late 1970's. Rob
    I'm interested in the concept of renting yourself out to a country, sort of like a mercenary I guess. In this case, what does the country get in return?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Rob was your mother a single parent? She seems to have had such a huge impact on you, and I can see why you have stayed in a country you dislike to care for her. It sounds like you were raised, You and Me Against the World.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Always, always, always ask and demand what the country that is currently renting you can do for you, not the other way around. Luckily, this was drilled into my head at the age of 7 (this one my Mom wanted me to grasp early with all the willing victims of the lack of socialized medicine surrounding us in rural New Hampshire at the time in the late 1970's). Rob
    is there a rate chart somewhere? Is it based on zip code? Evidently my rent check has been lost in the mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    You sir, and I say this kindly as I can, would be seen as an idiot by the bulk of the 85006 for your both pro-American and also lack of basic human rights stances. Throwing out your rhetoric is fine but don't be surprised that many in the 85006 find it both ridiculous and humorous (and in a very dark and cynical way from the many who know to live in fear of America and all that America truly is) Rob
    I don't see myself as a victim. I couldn't care less what the 85006 thinks. I'm not impressed with a high crime and low income zip code. The bulk of the 85006 are not someone most in the country would want their children to immulate. How many from the 85006 fled from Mexico to live here? Why don't they leave?

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    The “Ask not what...” inauguration phrase is classic Kennedy rhetoric which at the time was not embraced by all the country. But for different reasons than rob has noted. For me, my family was decidedly unexcepting of the thought that citizens were being encouraged to consider their highest moral responsibility was to serve the country. Individuality was much more important as was self sufficiency completely separate from some societal goal to achieve a great thing in unity. If you wanted that, Communism, was available for you.

    Today that has been turned completely around to where families by generation have adopted the expectation that your country as represented by elected officials and government are here to make your life easier. My wife was escorting an elementary child with emotional support problems through the cafeteria line. His mother had in the past qualified for free lunch subsidy. This year she only qualified for partial subsidy. She had fallen behind in her payments and thus owed a significant amount. The child requested the casserole but the cafeteria worker placed a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on his plate because she was not allowed to serve the casserole to him. He looked at my wife and said ,”If Trump wasn’t President, I would get the casserole.”

    Back when I was a kid, my response would have been, “If mom would pay her bill, I’d get the casserole.”

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    “If mom would pay her bill, I’d get the casserole.”

    Interesting as growing up I never once got money for
    lunch at school and I so wanted it as sometimes it looked yummy. Mom would say there was bread/pb and j and an apple if you wanted to pack it. No way where they paying for a school lunch, could they afford it? possibly though that would have been waste of money. . So I never took a lunch. Dad (89) tells how lunch line had egg salad and apple can't remember anyone going through lunch line.

    I survived. I am lost at the fact that school is responsible for the feeding of kids today. Ok hit me with wet noodle.

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    I notice this board is really not about simple living anymore. It is about every topic anyone wants to post about and that is ok. There used to be frugal board out there that was only frugal topics, but veered off course and now gone. Sometimes I wonder if this is the future of this board too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikingLady View Post
    I notice this board is really not about simple living anymore. It is about every topic anyone wants to post about and that is ok. There used to be frugal board out there that was only frugal topics, but veered off course and now gone. Sometimes I wonder if this is the future of this board too.
    Seems to me that would very limiting . I view it as a forum of Simple Living practitioners and advocates and we are not timid to discuss any topic in light of that world view.

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