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    Quote Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff View Post
    Innocent? In how many of these school shooting cases, were targets, ones that had bullied the shooter? (I think they bear some responsibility as well, as the shooter)

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    Seriously? You’re blaming the victims? Unreal.

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    Blaming innocents is disgusting. I bet those first grade kids that were massacred deserved it to with that type of reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Blaming innocents is disgusting. I bet those first grade kids that were massacred deserved it to with that type of reasoning.
    Your failing reading comprehension. First grade kids didn't bully adult shooters and is a different issue then situations like Columbine where high school age kids were shot by a fellow high schooler who had been bullied. That isn't the same issue either as an earlier one where a shooter opened fire, out of boredom and not liking the day.
    I probably should have realized as emotional as you all are acting, you couldn't get it.

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    So please tell us Alan, Toomuchstuff or anybody what is the solution? Please somebody come up with something.

    How could we prevent the 30 school shootings this year? How can we prevent more?https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States

    who will pay for the armed teachers, perimeter security, and metal detectors that some have suggested? Our students already rank in the middle of the world pack as far as school rankings go in developed countries. Diverting funds that might possibly pay for math and reading teachers, updated textbooks etc?
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...-math-science/

    what laws currently on the books are not being enforced as some have mentioned?

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    Irreconcilable arguements seem to have a few trademarks. Both sides are partially right, both sides are partially wrong and neither is willing to compromise based on distrust of the other. Separation and inward reflection is the only thing that will result in meaningful steps toward a solution, temporary or otherwise.

    School shootings could be reduced. We are a civilized society capable of applying workable plans to make things better for ourselves. Or are we? Adding “friction” to reduce crime is what all laws are really about. They aren’t intended or designed to eliminate the commission of crime by all facets of society. So anything that reduces the opportunity for a young person to solve his problems with a semiautomatic firearm....is a workable solution.

    But the gun is only one ingredient. Alone, it poses no risk. Add mental illness or lack of a nurturing home environment and you have an ugly cocktail. A well educated child possessing common morals and ethics can withstand bullying and verbal abuse without resorting to mass murder.

    Compromise seems to be a word not very well respected by either side. The only way to make any progress here is not with more comparisons, statistics, anecdotes or accusations of intentions. It’s about looking inward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post

    But the gun is only one ingredient. Alone, it poses no risk. Add mental illness or lack of a nurturing home environment and you have an ugly cocktail. A well educated child possessing common morals and ethics can withstand bullying and verbal abuse without resorting to mass murder.
    How are mental health issues and lack of nurturing environments solved?

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