Page 46 of 58 FirstFirst ... 36444546474856 ... LastLast
Results 451 to 460 of 579

Thread: Another school shooting, multiple fatalities

  1. #451
    Senior Member razz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    5,686
    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Frustratingly, though some of the nicer ones of those are for sale at great prices in a gunstore in Canada just a few miles from my house, I am not allowed to buy one and bring it home, because the one I want is made with parts from some country the USA is grumpy with. So instead of $400 Canadian (which is what, $37 US?), I have to pay $2400 for the nearly-identical item, made with all-US parts....

    Bae, the exchange rate is bad but not that bad. Try US$310. Could not resist. But remember, you are making America great again
    Gandhi: Happiness is when what you think, what you say and what you do are in harmony .

  2. #452
    Senior Member bae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Offshore
    Posts
    7,899
    Quote Originally Posted by razz View Post
    [/B]
    Bae, the exchange rate is bad but not that bad. Try US$310. Could not resist. But remember, you are making America great again
    One of the things I want is a lovely bolt-action rifle from Australia. Unfortunately it has a stock made of hardwood from A Country The USA Hates, and it is prohibited to import weapons parts from Such Naughty Countries. Foolish rules.

    Also, sometimes that store has great prices on ammunition. Unfortunately, about 96 pages of forms have to be filled out and an import permit issued before I can bring it back into the USA, which takes about 6 months. Regulations are so much fun.

  3. #453
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Nevada
    Posts
    7,759
    Another school shooting today

  4. #454
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Price County, WI
    Posts
    1,046
    Yes, the Noblesville IN incident today was at least the 21st school shooting in 2018. The youth with 2 handguns shot a female student. He was tackled by a science teacher, who he shot three times.

  5. #455
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    9,911
    Ain't that America?

  6. #456
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Price County, WI
    Posts
    1,046
    Ken Paxton, the Attorney General of Texas, wrote an op-ed piece for USA Today.

    He argues that US schools lack security measures of any consequence, and a good example of school security is Israel.

    He states that in Israel every school with 100 or more students has at least one well-armed and highly trained guard at the entrance. The initial training is rigorous -- only 6 in 10 applicants are able to meet the required standards. There is also an ongoing retraining cycle which requires requalification every 4 months.

    School staff and students are trained and drilled on how to respond to a threat.


    The schools in the USA should be hardened as targets by:
    Reducing the number of entrances, so that each entrance can be guarded.
    Installing metal detectors (similar to those that are used in courthouses and government buildings).
    Upgrading classroom doors, so that each room can be barricaded from within.


    Paxton does not see the usefulness of gun control in response to the problem of gun violence in schools.

    His argument does not address the legal responsibility of parents for the criminal behavior of their children using firearms that were legally owned by those parents (maybe not locked in a gun safe), or gifted to their children.

  7. #457
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Nevada
    Posts
    7,759
    WE will either turn our schools into prisons like Israel or we will have gun control like many European countries and Australia. Who is even going to want to work in schools anymore or send their kids there?

  8. #458
    Simpleton Alan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    6,390
    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    WE will either turn our schools into prisons like Israel or we will have gun control like many European countries and Australia.
    What does gun control look like to you?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

  9. #459
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Price County, WI
    Posts
    1,046
    US gun control without repeal of the Second Amendment would realistically involve "common sensical" restrictions, such as background checks on firearm buyers, red-flag court-ordered surrender of firearms to law enforcement, bans on ownership of "assault weapons", etc. The US is fairly unique among nations in maintaining a constitutional right to bear arms.

    Thinking outside the box, if the American electorate were sufficiently riled up by gun violence to repeal the Second Amendment, then hypothetically gun control in the US (11.96 Total Firearm Related Annual Death Rate per 100,000 Population) could look more like Canada (2.05), Israel (2.09), Australia (2.4), or Switzerland (3.01).

    In Israel firearms licenses are distributed to residents, agencies, and organizations by the Ministry of Public Security. "Firearms should only be issued if there is a personal or public need, as decided by the authorities, and only to one who adheres to the necessary requirements and has completed the appropriate training." All applicants are interviewed at the firearms licensing bureau. All applicants must complete training at a shooting range. Licenses are granted for a limited term. License holders must renew their license before it expires.

  10. #460
    Senior Member bae's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Offshore
    Posts
    7,899
    Quote Originally Posted by dado potato View Post
    US gun control without repeal of the Second Amendment would realistically involve "common sensical" restrictions, such as ... bans on ownership of "assault weapons",
    What is "common sensical" about banning "assault weapons"?

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •