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    Russian Trollery

    I see the FBI has indicted some Russian individuals and organizations for spreading disinformation via social media during the 2016 election. given the likelihood of ever getting their hands on the perpetrators, it seems to be pretty much a pro forma exercise aimed at showing some results for the Mueller team.

    I can't say I'm particularly shocked. They've been doing that sort of thing since New York Times readers lapped up John Reed's piffle about Lenin's socialist paradise. There has been a proud tradition of trying to influence US affairs since the Citizen Genet affair. And who could forget the endearing clueslessness of the Guardian enlisting Britons to try pushing Ohio voters into the Gore column?

    I'm not exactly sure what the Russians were trying to accomplish. Revenge on Mrs. Clinton for her remarks about their election. General purpose mischief? Fellow-feeling for Mr. Trump? Personally, I think they wasted their money. We are more than capable of generating sufficient codswallop domestically.

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    Maybe they thought what's good for the goose is good for the gander. It's only been a couple of years since our last administration funded (with taxpayer money) an Israeli group's efforts to defeat Prime Minister Netanyahu in that country's last election.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    So it WAS the Russians the whole time. I knew it! All those Make America Great Again signs popping up overnight in my neighbors yards were placed there by Russian operatives. And the guy with the big Trump sign on the side of his barn...he’s now driving a brand new Belarus tractor on his farm. I’ll bet he is a damn communist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    So it WAS the Russians the whole time. I knew it! All those Make America Great Again signs popping up overnight in my neighbors yards were placed there by Russian operatives. And the guy with the big Trump sign on the side of his barn...he’s now driving a brand new Belarus tractor on his farm. I’ll bet he is a damn communist!
    Wouldn't be surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    So it WAS the Russians the whole time. I knew it! All those Make America Great Again signs popping up overnight in my neighbors yards were placed there by Russian operatives. And the guy with the big Trump sign on the side of his barn...heís now driving a brand new Belarus tractor on his farm. Iíll bet he is a damn communist!
    I doubt there are many communists left outside of North Korea and Berkeley.

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    I thought this was a polite take on the situation:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/o...sia-putin.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    I thought this was a polite take on the situation:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/18/o...sia-putin.html
    Is that the failing New York Times.....or a transcript of this Weekends Saturday Night Live leaked to the press?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I'm not exactly sure what the Russians were trying to accomplish. Revenge on Mrs. Clinton for her remarks about their election. General purpose mischief? Fellow-feeling for Mr. Trump? Personally, I think they wasted their money. We are more than capable of generating sufficient codswallop domestically.


    I think the fact that Hillary compared Putin to Hitler, and Putin and Trump have a bromance my be some indication of their alternate foreign policies. Significant interference in our democratic election process is very wrong and the rest of the Russian interference discussion is pretty much haggling over details.

    However, with regards to Bae's good article, Russian interference a side show for the real issues. Something smells mighty fishy in Trump's swamp.

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    I find it rather entertaining to see the left attacking Trump from the right and completely disregarding the the way Hillary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman Schultz actually rigged the primary in Hillary’s favor .....a much larger threat to our democracy than the pathetic attempts of russian twitter and Facebook operatives. Do you forget, Bernie could have easily beaten Trump? That’s the real crime here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I doubt there are many communists left outside of North Korea and Berkeley.
    That's why fear-mongering about the Red Menace always makes me laugh. You could hold commie cell meetings in a phone booth if there were any of those remaining. Even the few communists abroad in the world are mostly practicing capitalists. Greed is a strong motivator.

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