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    Nearly half of Americans can't afford survival basics....

    "Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone, according to a study released Thursday by the United Way ALICE Project. That's 43% of households in the United States."

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news...udy/index.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    "Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone, according to a study released Thursday by the United Way ALICE Project. That's 43% of households in the United States."

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news...udy/index.html
    i found this astounding. 43% of households. What is the solution?

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    It would not load the article. I will try later. If I was low income I would not live here as it is too expensive. Wichita, KS is really cheap with plenty of jobs so would probably move to a place like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    "Nearly 51 million households don't earn enough to afford a monthly budget that includes housing, food, child care, health care, transportation and a cell phone, according to a study released Thursday by the United Way ALICE Project. That's 43% of households in the United States."

    http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/17/news...udy/index.html
    Your thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    Your thoughts?
    It is a big question, and I have many thoughts on the topic, which I am still gathering.

    The situation where I live is even worse, given the much higher cost of living here. And I see the nearby city of Seattle has a similar problem, with larger numbers of folks impacted.

    My local community simply doesn't have the economy with its borders to support a "middle class lifestyle" as defined in the article. One of the tasks I am charged with here is economic development, but most things we might try tend to bring in additional population, drive up land values/rents, burden our already oversubscribed infrastructure, or impact our ecosystem negatively. It's not an easy nut to crack.

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    Our housing has become un-affordable and the homeless numbers are rising. They tore down all the cheap housing downtown and now it will be all upscale. We really need affordable housing for people based on income. People working at google, apple etc make good $ but the casino workers not so much.

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    My bf periodically looks at ALL jobs in a very local area on job boards and says it's amazing how many of them don't pay enough to live off of.
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    From the data I've seen, you need a $25/hour to survive in NJ. Probably a lot more in many areas. If the minimum wage is <$20/hr, what do people do? You co-house. You put off dreams of having families. As Terry said, you move--a stressful decision, but one that many of our ancestors made. If you are making <$10, you go under. What's wrong? Who are the lucky ones in the bare majority who are managing to get by?
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    From the data I've seen, you need a $25/hour to survive in NJ. Probably a lot more in many areas. If the minimum wage is <$20/hr, what do people do? You co-house. You put off dreams of having families. As Terry said, you move--a stressful decision, but one that many of our ancestors made. If you are making <$10, you go under. What's wrong? Who are the lucky ones in the bare majority who are managing to get by?
    So, everyone should be able to afford a 1 br apartment to live in, alone? Is that the standard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    So, everyone should be able to afford a 1 br apartment to live in, alone? Is that the standard?
    I could easily afford a one-bedroom apartment on my own back in the day, even before I had a grown-up job, so that seems standard to me. Maybe in this brave new world, we should build dorms. I agree with Ultralight about unions, but that presumes we hold off automation indefinitely.

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