The 85006's latest issue with Trump

[gimmethesimplelife]

My neighborhood is all abuzz over Trump's latest.....apparently now for those who immigrate legally to the US, once you have a green card you can be denied citizenship (should you apply for it) if you or anyone in your household (assuming that you are not single) has ever used US public assistance of any kind.

On the one hand, there are those who abuse the limited benefits they can access, I won't deny that. On the other hand, given the low pay of the kinds of jobs most immigrants get vs. the nightmarishly rising costs in the US, this new policy reeks of inhumanity.

What do you think? I side with the 85006 and against the Thug of Orange. (I got tired of calling Trump the Orange Thug and am now calling him the Thug of Orange). Rob

[Alan]

Is there like an hourly opinion poll in the 85006 to keep up with the latest community outrage?

[gimmethesimplelife]

Is there like an hourly opinion poll in the 85006 to keep up with the latest community outrage?

Unlike many Americans, most people know their neighbors where I live and speak to their neighbors about such issues on a frequent basis......no need to an hourly opinion poll, Alan. I am going to get feedback on the latest news just by walking down a street where I live as I know (on some level, it's not like I know all the intimate details of every last neighbor's life) my neighbors.....and of course, almost everyone is going to agree politically on the big issues facing both the 85006 and the big world beyond the 85006. No real need for an hourly poll - it's more like we keep each other informed as good neighbors do for one another in lower income areas - we don't have the standoffishness overall that you would find were you to drive three miles north of where I live to a much "nicer" area where there is going to be more distrust of neighbors and paranoia of loss or of threats that other people "represent".

One nice thing about where I live - any efforts to drive a wedge between neighbors here have proved fruitless. Wages overall are too low and there is too much blatant lack of social mobility/real opportunity for such to work here. Not a day passes where I am not grateful for this (meaning the inability to drive wedges between people in this neighborhood), but I will admit as an introvert the level of social activity expected where I live can be draining - that much I'd agree with. Rob

[gimmethesimplelife]

Is there like an hourly opinion poll in the 85006 to keep up with the latest community outrage?

This is not just a community outrage, Alan.....this is a direct hit on hard working low income immigrants. This is an outrage to anyone who is decended from those who stepped off boats at Ellis Island......those people had nothing, too....maybe they didn't have social welfare to fall back on but do we want immigrants to suffer if they fall on legitimate hard time through no fault of their own? I can see a point where if it's the immigrant's fault for their unfortunate life situations, but it is not always the immigrant's fault. Rob

[Tradd]

Never mind. Read original post wrong.

[Teacher Terry]

I know my neighbors but didn’t discuss politics with anyone except for people I know that have similar views. The last thing I want to do is argue with people. If we are out and talking to people and they bring up politics we refuse to discuss it.

[Alan]

I know my neighbors but didn’t discuss politics with anyone except for people I know that have similar views. The last thing I want to do is argue with people. If we are out and talking to people and they bring up politics we refuse to discuss it.

Same here, I think the self-appointed voice of the 85006 may take a few liberties when speaking for the residents.

[gimmethesimplelife]

Same here, I think the self-appointed voice of the 85006 may take a few liberties when speaking for the residents.

It's really that hard for you as someone who believes in America to visualize a lower income area in which neighbors are mostly going to both bond and agree with one another politically? Interesting. The city looks down on my neighborhood as does society given that it is lower income, but yet this area has some Norman Rockwell Community type moments going on and as someone who supports America, you can't visualize this? Interesting. This explains a lot. Rob

[Alan]

It's really that hard for you as someone who believes in America to visualize a lower income area in which neighbors are mostly going to both bond and agree with one another politically? Interesting. The city looks down on my neighborhood as does society given that it is lower income, but yet this area has some Norman Rockwell Community type moments going on and as someone who supports America, you can't visualize this? Interesting. This explains a lot. Rob

I can easily visualize a community of like minded individuals, I just have trouble visualizing an entire zip code agreeing on whatever your hot topic of the day may be. I suspect there's a lot more diversity of thought in the 85006 than you give it credit for although I'm willing to concede many residents may be reluctant to make themselves subject to being reported on the community phone tree. Assimilation in the hive mind is easier than independent thought.

[gimmethesimplelife]

I know my neighbors but didn’t discuss politics with anyone except for people I know that have similar views. The last thing I want to do is argue with people. If we are out and talking to people and they bring up politics we refuse to discuss it.

Where I live it's amazingly easy - most people are liberals, most people are Democrats, most people are going to agree on most issues. I don't have to worry about discussing politics until such a time as I leave the neighborhood.

I will admit this much, however. It's very easy for me to get on Bus #70 and get off this bus line in an area society would consider much nicer than the one I live in. In this area I would not discuss politics any more than I would in the workplace in my role as a lower end supervisor. There in that "better" area I would not enjoy the safety of most people seeing things in the same way that I enjoy in the 85006. Rob