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    Quote Originally Posted by dmc View Post
    i understand that you don’t have to pay the full amount back, but your still screwing someone over.

    As to my financial situation, I paid for my college by working construction jobs during the summer months and breaks, I did borrow a small amount, but paid it back in full, with interest. I also paid for much of my wife’s college and my two sons.

    i decided to quit working just before I turned 50, no pension, just savings and investments. My wife also retired at 50, although she is 3 years younger so not at the same time. I have not worked in 11 years and my net worth is higher now than then, even though we spend approximately 10k a month, not including taxes.

    When I got out of college I married my wife a few months later, she was 19, I was 22. She now has a masters degree and specialist. We got married at Fort Knox on Saturday and I was at work in Texas on Monday. I owned a pickup truck but my wife had a few thousand in school loans. So not much net worth to start with.
    dmc: I read over this again. You really made some excellent financial decisions. I can appreciate that and I respect you for it.

    Here is my question to you: Put yourself in my place right now. What would you do? I am open to your ideas. Please share your wisdom.

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    The border drama is all political showboating. The real solutions have been manifest for a long time. They do not include building a symbolic billion dollar wall. They include removal of the welfare state magnet which draws people to the US for the wrong reasons, free up financing for immigration reform by reducing the war footprint across the globe and eliminate the war on drugs. Streamline the system so that there are not unreasonable waiting periods and view these people as the potential assets they are and not label them criminals and terrorists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    The border drama is all political showboating. The real solutions have been manifest for a long time. They do not include building a symbolic billion dollar wall. They include removal of the welfare state magnet which draws people to the US for the wrong reasons, free up financing for immigration reform by reducing the war footprint across the globe and eliminate the war on drugs. Streamline the system so that there are not unreasonable waiting periods and view these people as the potential assets they are and not label them criminals and terrorists.
    Stop making sense. People need to blame Trump/ Obama/Soros/Koch brothers/McConnell/nra/Hillary and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    The border drama is all political showboating. The real solutions have been manifest for a long time. They do not include building a symbolic billion dollar wall. They include removal of the welfare state magnet which draws people to the US for the wrong reasons, free up financing for immigration reform by reducing the war footprint across the globe and eliminate the war on drugs. Streamline the system so that there are not unreasonable waiting periods and view these people as the potential assets they are and not label them criminals and terrorists.
    +1

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    I thought the answer if one wanted to limit immigration was to crack down on employers hiring them. That is the wrong reason people come here for afterall, for work, it's why even the caravan doesn't want to stay in Mexico, better work in the U.S.. They have said as much.
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    Border drama: Vermont

    Just saw that the Border Patrol is in Grand Isle mapping out checkpoints on the island!! We are 26 miles from Canada and apparently the federal government has the authority to put checkpoints anywhere within 100 miles of the border. This is ridiculous!! The local paper has tried to get information from them and they won't give any.
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    L, comparing those people’s plight to the DMV is insulting. Do you sit outside for days with no shelter waiting to enter? Catherine, another example of wasting the taxpayers money for nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    The border drama is all political showboating. The real solutions have been manifest for a long time. They do not include building a symbolic billion dollar wall. They include removal of the welfare state magnet which draws people to the US for the wrong reasons, free up financing for immigration reform by reducing the war footprint across the globe and eliminate the war on drugs. Streamline the system so that there are not unreasonable waiting periods and view these people as the potential assets they are and not label them criminals and terrorists.
    I could get behind this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    L, comparing those people’s plight to the DMV is insulting. Do you sit outside for days with no shelter waiting to enter? Catherine, another example of wasting the taxpayers money for nothing.
    You can alert the empathy police for aggravated insensitivity if you like, but I still maintain that the adequacy or lack thereof of the bureaucratic infrastructure to deal with an artificially created surge in asylum applications justifies what we saw the other day. The organizers of this ugly circus could simply bring up an even larger group the next time.

    I do agree that taking the measures most advanced countries employ to limit the ability of people here illegally to work would go a long way toward solving the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff View Post
    Send them to where? Where are the court houses and living quarters/law libraries for them? (can't order civilian's to move/live in tents)
    Also, what about those who are currently in existing cases? Do they get told to wait for their day in court?
    This isn't some remote. Border crossing in the middle of nowhere. It's an urban area near San Diego.. Maybe I'm wrong but I think there are probably plenty of hotels/buildings that could provide accommodation and facilities suitable for asylum hearings. I also doubt that immigration judges consult legal libraries very often for run of the mill asylum cases. I'm willing to be swayed on this if someone would like to provide statistics showing otherwise.

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