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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Commodity prices are beyond my scope of understanding, but suffice it to say that we subsidize corn production and a lot of those who benefit are large scale industrial farms. Profit motivated free markets are at the foundation of our country, but I'm not so sure how that fits when the government subsidizes certain things and creates a false market.
    Agreed, but I think both capitalists and socialists find reasons to justify false markets propped up by governments. Historically, subsidy markets get created due to a real or perceived need and then when that need vaporizes or is proven unjustified....government doesn’t know how to remove that subsidy without losing votes.

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    Add agribusiness ...pesticide and herbicide use to the list of activities with catastrophic consequences for the human race within a century. We probably won’t be around by the time climate change threatens to wipe us out....according to this scientific journal the die out of insects is having immediate effects on the odds of our survival. Intensive agriculture, urbanization, habitat loss, pathogens and introduced species and then less important climate change.....will kill off all the insects within a hundred years and all the animals that rely on insect food.

    So much for good news.

    https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...06320718313636

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    It could be a race between innovation and disaster. Things like test tube grown meat are really not that far off. There is a new book out that I know I won't read called, Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline. Best I can tell from the summaries, the title says most of it. It could be that even with our brilliant scientists racing to solve problems, we won't escape the population dynamics of a biological population and things will self correct.

    If there is any good news from your disasters WS, it is that I our generation of conspicuous consumers and fossil fuel guzzlers will most probably be gone before it all comes down. If I were a young person coming into such calamities, I'd get the feeling that our leaders have sold us out for greed and power. Matter of fact, I can get that feeling anyway.

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    It could be a race between innovation and disaster. Things like test tube grown meat are really not that far off. There is a new book out that I know I won't read called, Empty Planet: The Shock of Global Population Decline. Best I can tell from the summaries, the title says most of it. It could be that even with our brilliant scientists racing to solve problems, we won't escape the population dynamics of a biological system and things will self correct.

    If there is any good news from your disasters WS, it is that our generation of conspicuous consumption and fossil fuel guzzling will most probably be gone before it all comes down. If I were a young person coming into such calamities, I'd get the feeling that our leaders have sold us out over greed. Matter of fact, I get that feeling anyway.

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    Here's some good news on a very small part of our environment; the Weavers' way food coop in Philadelphia I belong to held a recycling event and collected more than 300 pounds of batteries and 14 and half tons of electronic devices and processed them in cooperation with a company that breaks down and reuses the materials in the devices. Hundreds of people brought the stuff to a school in the Chestnut Hill section of the city. It was inspiring to see the effort people were willing to go to find an ethical way to dispose of their stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bicyclist View Post
    Here's some good news on a very small part of our environment; the Weavers' way food coop in Philadelphia I belong to held a recycling event and collected more than 300 pounds of batteries and 14 and half tons of electronic devices and processed them in cooperation with a company that breaks down and reuses the materials in the devices. Hundreds of people brought the stuff to a school in the Chestnut Hill section of the city. It was inspiring to see the effort people were willing to go to find an ethical way to dispose of their stuff!
    Do you know of any similar effort just up the road from you in Central Jersey? I am decluttering my home and my husband is a retired video producer and has TONS of obsolete equipment and we've been wondering what to do with it all.
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    Catherine,
    have you looked at the site earth911.com? Might be a place to start.

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    Washington state became the fourth (fifth?) to pass a renewable energy bill...

    "Today, we shift our focus to Washington State, where House Bill 1211 has passed its namesake chamber by a margin of 56-42. HB 1211 is the companion bill of Senate Bill 5116, will require the state to adopt 100% carbon-free power by 2045, as well as phasing out coal by 2025 and requiring all electricity sales to be carbon-neutral by 2030. The bill has now passed in both chambers, meaning that it is destined to end up on the desk of Governor Jay Inslee (D) after it goes back to the Senate for reconciliation, as some minor amendments were made in the House.

    And since Inslee proposed this plan to begin with, there is no doubt that he will sign the bill'"

    (PV Magazine.com)

    It looks like California, Massachusetts, New York, and Oregon have passed similar measures.

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    This test on reducing climate change and how to become effective is interesting to do. I did very badly, BTW.
    https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019...uiz/index.html
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    This was very interesting. I only got 33% and only Empowering women did I get them all in a row. It made me think. We're looking at a new car....perhaps a hybrid?

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