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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Scott Adams turns out to be quite the outspoken woman-hater, more's the pity.
    I found the Dilbert cartoons pretty much on point.
    I don't much care what he has to say re politics.
    I always figured SA was that guy in the basement no one would go to prom with, personified in Dilbert. In the comic, he portrayed himself as a dweeb, and his female compatriots as equally socially challenged. I'll stick with that version. Don't know if I can "forgive" his misogyny, but I'll always hold his roast of corporate nonsense in the highest regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    maybe i like him because I havent heard him before, but Dilbert wss sadly brilliant.
    Yes it was. I identified with his tech writer character, Alice, natch.

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    Castro is out. A few more need to get realistic and go bye-bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Yes it was. I identified with his tech writer character, Alice, natch.
    I preferred Catbert or Dogbert :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    This line of thinking is such bullshit. The black vote is not the core of the Democratic party. And if black voters are indeed disrespecting Mayor Pete for the chief reason that he is a gay man, why support that point of view? What a ridiculous position.

    I am listening to Scott Adams (chronicler of Dilbert) who say he is socially “left of Bernie” and he has some very interesting things to say about Donald Trump’s ability to speak to a crowd and engender a following. That doesn't mean he supports Trump. But to the black and white thinkers (several here on this board) his opinion would translate as pro-Trump.

    Anyway, Dilbert thinks Biden is embarrassing and is surprised the Democrat machine is allowing him to go this far, given Biden fairly serious problems in speaking and campaigning. Dilbert says he has yet to meet a Biden supporter. That certainly rings true for this board. He says Warren, Bernie (the socialists) cannot beat Trump in a general election, and Joe
    biden is too much of a tired and worn out pol.

    But the Democratic party kingmakers are doing things like what bae posted, tamping down the Mayor Petes and Gabbards and etc.

    way to dig your own graves, Dems.
    Don't drop dead of shock, IL, but I agree with you here. It would be wiser for the Democratic party to elevate new blood such as Gabbard or Mayor Pete than recycle someone like Joe Biden who has all the charisma of a melting ice cube. Also, I worry that he's too much of an "establishment" politician as Hillary Clinton was.....such likely will not work for him if he squares off against Trump. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Scott Adams turns out to be quite the outspoken woman-hater, more's the pity.
    I found the Dilbert cartoons pretty much on point.
    I don't much care what he has to say re politics.
    Defining “literary” a bit broadly, it seems to me that cancel culture seems less effective against literary types than other public figures. A Scott.Adams or JK Rowling seem better able to defy twitter mobs than actors or standup comics. I wonder why that would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Defining “literary” a bit broadly, it seems to me that cancel culture seems less effective against literary types than other public figures. A Scott.Adams or JK Rowling seem better able to defy twitter mobs than actors or standup comics. I wonder why that would be.
    Twitterers may be inversely proportional to literary types. Twitterers may not pay much attention to people who write things longer than 160 characters.
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    Tonight I heard Deval Patrick speak in rural New Hampshire. He is a smooth* but vague speaker, which the audience caught on to. He is also telegenic, not having visibly aged much since he was my governor. Since I lived under both his terms as governor I knew his record and asked him a question about it. He lied twice in his answer, once claiming he did something he did not do, and another time claiming one of his Republican successors didn't do something he in fact did do. Since this event I have come up with the nickname Dishonest Deval for him.

    Speaking of Republicans, he tried to take credit for Romneycare. He was light on policy, claiming we need to get away from "silos" and move into some unspecified namby-pamby unity to restore the country, which he said he is best equipped to do because he has worked in both the private and public sector. He proudly listed 3 socially aware clients of his at Bain Capital, but I have to wonder how many of the other type he had, that gobble up companies and lay off their workers, the kind that came up during Romney's campaign.

    There was no mention of foreign policy and little of domestic policy, though he did say universal national service should be mandatory. All I could think of is my son who rarely leaves the house and suffers from extreme germaphobia/OCD, social anxiety and depression. Forcing him to do two years of this just might make him suicidal again. Patrick talked about mental illness briefly, mentioning his wife's struggles, but I feel he really doesn't understand it. She never wanted to be in the public eye but he put his career first, and she would be paraded out for events like the State of the State address. I was glad she didn't come tonight.

    He did a little Obama name dropping although he worked in the Clinton Justice Department. That didn't go over well with the audience either, who said things like "I don't want Republican lite" and "None of the Democratic nominees have inspired me for decades now. I vote for the lesser of two evils in general elections" and "I like Bernie the best right now".

    Patrick is following the standard Democratic insider script and trying to play it safe, which I think didn't win him any converts. One man raised concerns about immigration, illegality, and the impact of the country to absorb unlimited numbers of people, and Patrick told him he was wrong. So not only can Patrick not persuade the left, but with responses like this on immigration, pooh-poohing valid concerns, he's not going to win over Trump voters like he claims he can. I don't know who he thinks he can round up to support his campaign.

    The event was hosted by the town Democratic committee and they have a different candidate every month. I wasn't aware until I got there you get a full meal, there are alcoholic beverages available for a donation, and a hat is passed around to cover the cost of renting the church basement. I didn't bring any money with me as past events I've gone to were free except one dinner where I had to buy a ticket in advance and knew. Patrick was aware though. He brought a dish. But he was late so everyone had already filled their plates, and we had to wait around while he ate.

    * He stalled more than any of the other candidates I've seen. He would start to answer a question, get stuck, then ask what is your name and go off on a tangent until you could see him coming up with his answer. The smoothness was in his prepared remarks, not answers to questions.

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    Woo Woo Williamson is out.

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    Sanders has the lead in Iowa.....I just don't know what to make of this as I don't believe Sanders can beat Trump. But I've been known to be wrong. And Mayor Pete has slid a bit in polls. Warren is #2 in Iowa. Will be glad when this is over! Rob

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