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    Sanders and Yang poll best along Trump voters. The both understand the suffering of people left out of the economic mainstream.

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    I appreciate your reports, yppej.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Tonight I heard Deval Patrick speak in rural New Hampshire. He is a smooth* but vague speaker, which the audience caught on to. He is also telegenic, not having visibly aged much since he was my governor. Since I lived under both his terms as governor I knew his record and asked him a question about it. He lied twice in his answer, once claiming he did something he did not do, and another time claiming one of his Republican successors didn't do something he in fact did do. Since this event I have come up with the nickname Dishonest Deval for him.

    Speaking of Republicans, he tried to take credit for Romneycare. He was light on policy, claiming we need to get away from "silos" and move into some unspecified namby-pamby unity to restore the country, which he said he is best equipped to do because he has worked in both the private and public sector. He proudly listed 3 socially aware clients of his at Bain Capital, but I have to wonder how many of the other type he had, that gobble up companies and lay off their workers, the kind that came up during Romney's campaign.

    There was no mention of foreign policy and little of domestic policy, though he did say universal national service should be mandatory. All I could think of is my son who rarely leaves the house and suffers from extreme germaphobia/OCD, social anxiety and depression. Forcing him to do two years of this just might make him suicidal again. Patrick talked about mental illness briefly, mentioning his wife's struggles, but I feel he really doesn't understand it. She never wanted to be in the public eye but he put his career first, and she would be paraded out for events like the State of the State address. I was glad she didn't come tonight.

    He did a little Obama name dropping although he worked in the Clinton Justice Department. That didn't go over well with the audience either, who said things like "I don't want Republican lite" and "None of the Democratic nominees have inspired me for decades now. I vote for the lesser of two evils in general elections" and "I like Bernie the best right now".

    Patrick is following the standard Democratic insider script and trying to play it safe, which I think didn't win him any converts. One man raised concerns about immigration, illegality, and the impact of the country to absorb unlimited numbers of people, and Patrick told him he was wrong. So not only can Patrick not persuade the left, but with responses like this on immigration, pooh-poohing valid concerns, he's not going to win over Trump voters like he claims he can. I don't know who he thinks he can round up to support his campaign.

    The event was hosted by the town Democratic committee and they have a different candidate every month. I wasn't aware until I got there you get a full meal, there are alcoholic beverages available for a donation, and a hat is passed around to cover the cost of renting the church basement. I didn't bring any money with me as past events I've gone to were free except one dinner where I had to buy a ticket in advance and knew. Patrick was aware though. He brought a dish. But he was late so everyone had already filled their plates, and we had to wait around while he ate.

    * He stalled more than any of the other candidates I've seen. He would start to answer a question, get stuck, then ask what is your name and go off on a tangent until you could see him coming up with his answer. The smoothness was in his prepared remarks, not answers to questions.
    Thank You, yppeg, for your take on Deval Patrick, former Massachusetts Governor. I've seen media bites of him before and instinctively something about him just rubbed me the wrong way. I'm glad he's gaining no traction. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I appreciate your reports, yppej.
    Ditto. Rob

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    My pleasure Jane and Rob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    My pleasure Jane and Rob.
    I heard a joke recently about Iowans in these election years. The joke can easily be applied to people from New Hampshire:

    A newsman asked a New Hampshire resident who he was supporting for president.

    The New Hampshire citizen said “I’m not sure yet, I’m still thinking it over. I’ve only been able to talk to these guys four times.”

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    I had someone say to me years back that they were voting for X because they’d talked to him. Sometimes you just wonder ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewGig View Post
    I had someone say to me years back that they were voting for X because they’d talked to him. Sometimes you just wonder ...
    I've noticed that in city council elections those who go door to door win. But you never see them again until the next election, and only then if they have a strong challenger.

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    I heard Michael Bennet today and was impressed. He is more centrist than I am, but he was smart, knew the issues, pragmatic, bipartisan, and not a panderer. One woman pressed him to commit to a female running mate and he would not. He said he would not promise free college to get votes, as it's more important to do free pre-K even though little kids don't vote. He was strong on climate change, education, and poverty but weak on healthcare. This was the first audience in which anyone other than me asked about foreign relations, probably because of recent events with Iran, and he gave standard Democratic responses.

    People made a big fuss about Joe Lieberman being the first Jew on a major party ticket. Now years later this is sometimes mentioned in relation to Bernie Sanders, but I had never known this about Bennet. His mother is a Holocaust survivor. His wife was present sporting fabulous gray hair. She works or worked for Earth Justice, a legal offshoot of the Sierra Club, which may explain his strong environmental record.

    He was open, taking many unscreened questions, even after his handlers told him to stop, but did not stick around for selfies as he has committed to 50 more New Hampshire town halls before the primary, which will be a challenge with the impeachment trial. He is not particularly charismatic, but attracted the most impressive audience yet of the 13 candidate events I have been to. They asked serious thoughtful qiestions not what can you do for me or my pet program. No children were in attendance, but there were lots of college students as well as older adults. Again, he did not pander to the students, but instead talked about revamping secondary education so the 70% of people who do not go on to college can get living wage jobs.

    C-Span was present. If you watch the coverage I am the woman in a purple sweater sitting at the counter who asked a question.

    I would like to hear what those of you here from Colorado think of him.

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    I've been pulling for Bennet from the day he announced his candidacy. He has had a full career of various political experiences. I don't know of any significant controversies while representing the state as a U.S. Senator, other than typical political differences. From what I know he is pretty much within the lines of what you'd expect from a centrist. He seems to be especially strong on environmental issues. His main platform is being called "the real deal" intended to contrast the unrealistic dream wishes of the more liberal candidates. The talks I've heard him give have elements of bringing the parties together and working out of the party polarization we have now.

    His weaknesses, which I think are pretty much self-admitted, are that he doesn't have any attention getting glitzy grand scheme such as Medicare for all or free education. He also has sort of a milk toast personality although I've seen him being dynamic when needed. His recent claim to fame is a fiery tirade against Ted Cruz for blocking the federal budget while our state was in severe need of assistance after historic flooding a couple of years ago. It was one of the most watched something or another at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUD2AErqbwM I still get some entertainment value from seeing it.

    I'd vote for him in a minute over any of the other front runners. It's too bad he's not been more popular, or hasn't raised the big money at least. It seems like money rates higher than most things in determining the top dogs.

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