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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    Medicare would cover 100%.
    I believe the average person currently spends less on out of pocket expenses when covered under employer provided health insurance than when covered under existing Medicare plan. Will Medicare for All require that 92% of the population increase their out of pocket costs when they lose choice?
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    If you don’t buy supplements you will be stuck with the 20%. My sister in Chicago is paying 600/month for hers. A advantage plan is free or cheap but if you have a serious illness you pay more out of pocket. In addition you need a referral to go out of network or a specialist and people have died waiting for permission. Also you cannot just switch back to regular Medicare but must go through underwriting to go back. The big thing is that everyone would have insurance.

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    My daughter seems to be a big fan of the UK's NHS for her medical care. Then again, she's 22 and healthy. She does have to pay into the plan as a documented alien, but it seems cheaper than what we were paying here for her.

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    Millions of people who work full time or part-time or contract or gig workers will get healthcare for maybe the first time (By the way driving for Uber/Lyft (true gig work) can be a 12 hour shift to make it, I know people who have done it when they couldn't find I.T. contract work. It's not cushy like an 8 hour day at the office.). Health care they wont' have to pass up because they can't afford to see a doctor.

    They won't even need a big union (but can have one if they want), or a government job, or to work for a fortune 500 to be assured of decent coverage. Maybe some day they'll even get a few paid sick days to use to go to the doctor. Wow, one can dream you know, that sick people can go to the doctor. And if a few trust fund babies with no need to work, pursuing Expressionist Opera also get healthcare, well so will everyone, they won't be excluded.
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    If you don’t buy supplements you will be stuck with the 20%. My sister in Chicago is paying 600/month for hers. A advantage plan is free or cheap but if you have a serious illness you pay more out of pocket. In addition you need a referral to go out of network or a specialist and people have died waiting for permission. Also you cannot just switch back to regular Medicare but must go through underwriting to go back. The big thing is that everyone would have insurance.
    Sander's plan is 100% coverage as is the House bill. That's what Warren says she supports (Sander's plan). Tulsi has supported the House equivalent, so probably supports the same. Yang doesn't have his own plan, so may as well assume he supports the Sanders plan?

    The rest aren't running on Medicare for All, I don't know the details of say Harris plan, but it's not a Medicare for All plan in her own words I believe.
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    Your health care shouldn't depend on having an employer, or be subject to cancellation should you quit or be laid off.

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    Sanders is proposing an enhanced or improved Medicare for All that covers all medically necessary costs but not cosmetic procedures.

    As to sick time, states are leading the way. My state recently put in a new tax to pay for short-term disability and leave to care for ill family members or a newborn. I have heard nothing but praise from everyone. It received support from our Democratic state legislature and our Republican governor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Your health care shouldn't depend on having an employer, or be subject to cancellation should you quit or be laid off.
    Yes - this business of tying healthcare to your employer is just foolish.

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    Word I get from folks who have gone on Medicare is that they have had trouble finding good doctors who will take the lower limits of medicare payments. I wonder if a the medicare option plan would create two quality levels of medical care.

    After hearing at least two of the candidates rant about the high profits big pharma is making, I've wondered why I haven't bought pharmaceutical stocks and grown rich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Word I get from folks who have gone on Medicare is that they have had trouble finding good doctors who will take the lower limits of medicare payments. I wonder if a the medicare option plan would create two quality levels of medical care.
    They should try the ACA if they really want almost no doctors that take a plan (no matter the plan). But this is about the only viable option for many people under the age of 65 now (and yes only just barely "viable" and hardly affordable) and really not working as one might think it would ..
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