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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I just saw a video clip of that, it appears the tear gas was used to disperse a crowd surrounding him chanting "Quit your job, quit your job" while a few others threw rocks at him.

    You have to admire his ability to stay on point as he continued to appease the crowd who were upset that Federal Police were actually protecting federal property.
    Mayor Wheeler was quoted as saying he didn't see any need for the attack. Portland could hire two off-duty city police officers to stand in front of that building. Goons begone!

    Was your video clip authentic? More authentic than this still shot, I hope:
    https://god.dailydot.com/trump-ukrai...vNUB0PC9Jc9giM

    ETA: There's conjecture that operatives are coming in late every evening to cause trouble and gin up photo ops for Trump's campaign ads. Wouldn't surprise me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I can remember when such talk was the province of far-right crazies. Either you owe them an apology or you’re being disingenuous.
    Maybe at one time that was true but now look what is in the White House. Times have radically changed. This is how Hitler came to power. People did not believe or want to see what he was doing. The good news about all this ... is some Republicans are starting to speak up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I don't think you can vote a dictator out of office, and these days I'm pretty sure that will happen with Trump in just a few months.
    he keeps saying he will not believe the results of the election (unless they are in his favor, of course). He may have to be dragged out! I hope you are right. He can't be gone too soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Is Godwin's Law is not a thing anymore?

    I never heard of anyone else being referred to as Hitler. This guy is the closest I have ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Dictatorships only work in Socialist or their parent Communist countries. Thank goodness we're not there yet.
    The operative word here is YET.

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    Hitler was a fascist, a dictator solidly on the right pole of the spectrum.

    Roderick Stackelberg places fascism—including Nazism, which he says is "a radical variant of fascism"—on the political right by explaining: "The more a person deems absolute equality among all people to be a desirable condition, the further left he or she will be on the ideological spectrum. Clearly Hitler, with his murderous racism, was not a proponent of "absolute equality."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Mayor Wheeler was quoted as saying he didn't see any need for the attack.
    Hence my earlier stated admiration for his ability to stay on point.
    Was your video clip authentic?
    I saw it this morning on MSNBC's three hour daily Mika & Joe Hate Trump show, so I can't actually vouch for its authenticity or context.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post

    I also don't understand the claim that "random" people are being grabbed off the street rather than "targeted" people. Where's the value in that other than to inflame the easily inflamed? It doesn't make sense.
    I suppose if you ignore the multiple videos floating around the internet showing exactly that, and that pretty much all the people who get kidnapped get released without ever being told why they were picked up or having any charges brought against them then, sure, it's not happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I suppose if you ignore the multiple videos floating around the internet showing exactly that, and that pretty much all the people who get kidnapped get released without ever being told why they were picked up or having any charges brought against them then, sure, it's not happening.
    So the Force does work!

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    I watched several different live streams of the Portland events of last night.

    I did see:

    - hard objects being thrown over the fence at the building, and at humans on the other side of the fence
    - seemingly some flaming objects being thrown over the fence, some looked like the classic bottle-with-rag-on-fire
    - laser beams pointing at humans on the other side of the fence
    - fires inside the fenceline, not sure of the cause

    Now, if I were a homeowner, and a mob was throwing flaming bottles at my home, and lighting me up with what appear to be laser sighting devices, I'd be tempted to react strongly....

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