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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    The average person is getting a tax shock that they are paying more in taxes not less as trump promised. I saw some interviews in Iowa and people that voted for him are mad.
    He promised to help DACA kids, and that Mexico would pay for our insulting "Berlin Wall." And that he would support HIV/AIDS funding after (again) cutting research funding, and firing the entire AIDS advisory council. And--with his hand on the Bible--he promised that he would preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution." His word is worthless.

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    He has always been a liar but people are easily fooled. I have to say I don’t feel bad for anyone that voted for him. They are getting what they deserve. I do feel bad for all the others hurt by him especially the dreamers and immigrants.

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    Donald Trump is manifestly ridiculous and a historic embarrassment. And yet the growing throng of opposition candidates seem eager to jump the shark rather than let an easy win drop into their lap.

    Wealth taxes abandoned by Scandinavia. Elimination of ICE, billionaires and private health insurance. Economic security for those unwilling to work. Free stuff for everybody.

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    LDAHL, cynicism doesn't become you, even though you embrace it.

    "Wealth taxes" worked just fine after WWII, some form of single payer would save us money rather than cost us. ICE is unnecessarily cruel, and not particularly competent--at least in its current iteration--maybe Stephen Miller is working behind the scenes. It needs oversight or overhaul.

    "Free stuff for everybody" is just a right-wing talking point; in a democracy or a democratic republic, the citizens get a say in how their taxes are spent. Even though this very rich country could certainly provide a basic stipend for every one of us if we didn't have tax loopholes, tax avoiders, tax-cutting legislators, and tax cheats, most of us are happy enough making our own way in life, only wanting our government to have our backs should we falter. We shouldn't have to lose our houses and everything we own should we contract a serious illness. We should get more for our taxes than war and graft and a sleazy grifting overclass.

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    Totally agree Jane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post

    "Free stuff for everybody" is just a right-wing talking point;
    Free health care and free education for all are a mainstay of the new democratic socialist party, and now free welfare for those "unwilling to work" is a part of the Green New Deal initiative. If the right-wing assumes the concept as a talking point, it is to remind the gullible that nothing is free.
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    Just watched part of the AG interview and he is Trump’s mini me. He either lied or evaded. It was pitiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    It was pitiful.
    Yes, watching the Democrats turn an agency oversight meeting into an intensely partisan attack was painful to watch.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    The Democrats acted like mature adults and he a spoiled child. I hope they can block this moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    The Democrats acted like mature adults and he a spoiled child. I hope they can block this moron.

    I especially enjoyed seeing the Democrat Congressman (who's name escapes me) ask him if he was aware that the DOJ was created in the 1960's to address civil rights violations and then refuse to allow him to correct the premise and point out that it was formed during the U.S. Grant administration in 1870. There's apparently nothing worse than spoiled children correcting the mature adults.
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