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    The stupid wall

    Is now becoming the stupid dangerous wall.

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/opin...es/2806020002/

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    I am sure moats and alligators are next)

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    I think big political projects like the wall or the “new green deal” are meant as political rallying points rather than actual policy goals. Political types are always looking for a big MEOW (moral equivalent of war) to inspire us with their vision. It really doesn’t have anything to do with feasibility or practical outcomes. It has to do with getting supporters in line.

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    This is why I am tired of them all.

    and our local political scene is ridiculous. Usually I can drum up interest in these local issues and elections, but my attention is wandering. The screeching of extreme positions here in my city tires me and makes me shut them out. Hermann is looking better and better.

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    I don’t know if Trump is a genius or a moron but I do know thus far everything he has done has preserved or improved his chances of being re elected in 2020. Including the spat over the wall. He has done or is in the process of doing everything he promised to do and more. Which is exactly why he was elected in the first place and exactly why he will be re elected in 2020.

    The Democrats are currently in need of someone who can fire up at least an equivalent base if not one greater than the 40% or so who view concertina razor wire as a fashion statement for southern borders. And the results of the Trump Tax break for the Middle Class are rather striking. My struggling tool & die maker who owed $250 to the IRS last year is getting nearly a grand back this year which will go a long way toward boosting an emergency fund.

    Maybe that increase in the military budget that the Democrats didn’t object to , was just a nice little back door way to fund a stainless steel razor wall? Like I said, I don’t know if Trump is a genius or a moron but.....

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    Williamsmith, I really appreciate your posts here. I can’t say that I think that Trump is a genius or moron although it’s probably a mix of both, and I will not be voting for him second time around most likely. But —
    I have no words for the rest of it all.

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    Well most middle class people are going to owe money and people are pissed. They interviewed people in Iowa that usually get a refund and now owe up 4K. They are not happy campers and said they wouldn’t be voting for him again. Btw if your tool and dye maker friend moved to Milwaukee or another bigger city he would be making more money than most college graduates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Well most middle class people are going to owe money and people are pissed. They interviewed people in Iowa that usually get a refund and now owe up 4K. They are not happy campers and said they wouldn’t be voting for him again. Btw if your tool and dye maker friend moved to Milwaukee or another bigger city he would be making more money than most college graduates.
    Moving might assist him financially but then he would never see his daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Williamsmith View Post
    I don’t know if Trump is a genius or a moron but I do know thus far everything he has done has preserved or improved his chances of being re elected in 2020. Including the spat over the wall. He has done or is in the process of doing everything he promised to do and more. Which is exactly why he was elected in the first place and exactly why he will be re elected in 2020.
    I can't see where T has done everything he promised. He couldn't repeal Obamacare, he's done nothing of importance for infrastructure, I'm uncertain about any net gain bringing manufacturing jobs back or bringing prescription drug prices down, he couldn't ban Muslims from entering the country, and Mexico is not paying for the wall. I don't doubt the possibility of him being re-elected, but it's like he said, he could shoot someone and he's still have his supporters. And people will vote with their wallets and at least as things look right now the economy is chugging along pretty well for most people and T gets at least a little credit for that.

    I hope the dems can pull a worthy contender out of the crowd to make things interesting, but sometimes I get they feeling they don't have a clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I hope the dems can pull a worthy contender out of the crowd to make things interesting, but sometimes I get they feeling they don't have a clue.
    So far they're all concentrating on virtue signalling to the AOC crowd. I say let them.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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