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    We stopped being a true federation of states sometime during the 1860ís when we decided that the US was similar to the Hotel California. You can check out anytime you like but you can never leave.

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    Well done JP1, you're on fire today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CathyA View Post
    Did you mean to say he WASN'T voted in by the majority of the people?
    That is what I meant to say. And Alan the people should be the ones who decide who is president. The electoral college should be eliminated since it is an antiquated system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    That is what I meant to say. And Alan the people should be the ones who decide who is president. The electoral college should be eliminated since it is an antiquated system.
    Do you understand why the electoral college exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    And Alan the people should be the ones who decide who is president. The electoral college should be eliminated since it is an antiquated system.
    They do, through a bit of a compromise. Since the Federal government represents the States your other choice would be to have Congress elect the President directly. The compromise has always been giving the citizens a voice by channeling their choice through their state of residence in an equal amount to their representatives in the House and Senate.


    Personally, I'm now at an age to be quite concerned about anyone's desire to eliminate antiques simply because they're found to be troublesome.
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    I have to say I agree with having the Electoral College for the reasons Alan cited. I don't think it's fair for the few areas of the country where 80% of the population resides to dictate who gets to be president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Do you understand why the electoral college exists?
    In a word: slave owners.

    At the Philadelphia convention, the visionary Pennsylvanian James Wilson proposed direct national election of the president. But the savvy Virginian James Madison responded that such a system would prove unacceptable to the South: “The right of suffrage was much more diffusive [i.e., extensive] in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of Negroes.” In other words, in a direct election system, the North would outnumber the South, whose many slaves (more than half a million in all) of course could not vote. But the Electoral College—a prototype of which Madison proposed in this same speech—instead let each southern state count its slaves, albeit with a two-fifths discount, in computing its share of the overall count.

    I remembered it was all about slavery, but had to look it up. Here's the original reference:
    http://time.com/4558510/electoral-co...story-slavery/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    My take is that it's something Trump has promoted after hearing it from Rush. He also claimed they kill so many birds that you don't want to walk under them. Far as I can tell both are basically false and another ploy to promote fossil fuels. There have been plenty of articles in the news lately to fact check things.
    I'm beginning to understand why the expression "bird brain" exists--they're too dumb to avoid predators like housecats and hazards like wind turbines and jet engines. I'm surprised we have any left...

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    The electoral college can go as far as I am concerning. I am for the popular vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I remembered it was all about slavery, but had to look it up. Here's the original reference:

    Except that it wasn't. If anything, it was all about property rights, something we modern day residents of fly-over country could easily lose (among other rights) if our national elections were allowed to become local elections in and around major population centers on the coasts and a few other inland areas. It also ensures that the rights and concerns of all citizens are protected by a federal system of government rather than the pure democracies preferred by the elites. There is always potential for tyranny within a majority, we are all better served by the protections built into our systems designed to limit the potential damage.
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