The problem is that not all women are like this, Jane, I will give you that here and now. But too many are and too many men have been burned for no sane or legal reason whatsoever. I know of nine just from my high school class and there are more in the same class that have too but they are not living locally and so do not participate in this group other than by email. What we need to do is to get rid of no fault divorce laws AND make it harder to marry in the first place.....it's too easy for a woman these days to feel "bored" or "unloved" and cash in on her marriage for 50% or more......for no real reason whatsoever. It happens every day all around this country to the great support of the Family Court System, The American Legal Industry, and The American Divorce Industry. Just because you are not a woman who would pull this and may have a hard time relating due to this does not mean it's not happening. It most certainly is. Things need to change or the marriage rates will continue their deep plunge and children will be the province of immigrants only and their children will not have kids once they Westernize - the risks for at least men are too great these days. The second generation will have learned this. Rob