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    I have never quite understood why Columbine is the standard? School shootings go back to the 1700's in this country. Heck, a very popular song was about a school shooting by a female in the 1970's.


    But I have had a different take, based on my school experience. (both gun and knife point in school)

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    My oldest is 45 and never had to worry about violence at school. We need to follow examples from other countries that have solved this problem.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    My oldest is 45 and never had to worry about violence at school. We need to follow examples from other countries that have solved this problem.,
    Yes, stressing respect for life and consequences of actions would go a long way towards solving the violence problem in this country.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    New Zealand took immediate action when it’s people were slaughtering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    New Zealand took immediate action when it’s people were slaughtering.
    Yes, they treated them like subjects rather than citizens. Oddly enough, some people are really into that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff View Post
    I have never quite understood why Columbine is the standard?
    This was an interesting question. A quick google search turned up the Wikipedia page listing all school shootings. (I doubt Encylopedia Brittanica ever had An article about that...). Scrolling through the list most of the shootings up until recently involved 1, maybe 2 dead people, and almost always someone the shooter was angry with for some reason. In the decade or so leading up toColumbine things start to get worse and the victims seemingly more random but the number of dead are still low. Columbine, with 15 dead, was just a whole lot bigger than anything that had happened before.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List..._United_States

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Yes, they treated them like subjects rather than citizens. Oddly enough, some people are really into that.
    So in a country where the citizens are called subjects the government is actually concerned about their lives? Interesting concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Yes, stressing respect for life and consequences of actions would go a long way towards solving the violence problem in this country.
    When you live in a country where constant wars are a way of life, corporations pay no taxes, the president is an unindicted co-conspirator, and basic health care is considered a luxury, it's not hard to see why people may see violence as the answer--especially when fetishizing of any and all weaponry is thought to be enshrined in the Constitution. Clearly, locking people up in numbers only rivaled by South Africa isn't working. Maybe we could look to more evolved countries for answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    So in a country where the citizens are called subjects the government is actually concerned about their lives? Interesting concept.
    History says otherwise and I'm still surprised at how many people continue to enjoy seeing others subjugated. It's a mystery to me.
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    Personally i’m not convinced that our democratic republican government is particularly more or less interested in It’s citizen’s lives. With the exception of the corporate ‘people’ of course. They must be protected at all costs. The rest of us though? Meh. We’re completely expendable.

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