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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    I think she would have fared fine under Medicare for all.
    Really? It's heartening to hear that you think our Medicare for all will be better than other socialized systems throughout the world. Maybe everyone else can still come here for treatments and care they can't get under socialized systems elsewhere, at least in the short term.
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    Poland is a tiny country just like I live in a state without a ton of population. No surprise they cannot do the surgery. None of my friends are unhappy with Medicare so I am not concerned at all.

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    Gold star survivor benefits for children is now being taxed at 37%. So the family gets 15k/year and pay 5 in taxes. Does this seem fair to anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    No, I'm middle class and did get a tax cut, as I suspect you did as well. It's more like "If you like your current plan and doctor, you can keep your plan and doctor." Ha, ha, what a kidder.
    I did. But the vast majority of that budget buster didn't go to people like you or me.

    And if the republicans expected me to do anything to boost the economy they will be disappointed. I don't live paycheck to paycheck so all I did with the extra money was stick it in my money market account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Gold star survivor benefits for children is now being taxed at 37%. So the family gets 15k/year and pay 5 in taxes. Does this seem fair to anyone?
    Trump has a grudge against Gold Star families. He likes families where the soldiers came home. Besides, Khizr Khan stood up to him, bigly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    Senator Warren has a proposed wealth tax as a key element of her policies.
    On Colbert the other night (just caught this after checking Netflix for a show), 2% of the 75,000 families with $50,000,000.00 or more in the bank, to cover all American's for health care, reduce student loans (didn't say eliminate), build new housing and I think I am missing something because:

    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    And yet none of us are paying enough to achieve a balanced budget.

    To me, tjat seems like a lot of free or reduced rate stuff that this country cannot afford.
    I was thinking they must have fixed Social Security and balanced the budget, after all how long has she been in office? (2013 and she is not currently focused on her current, representation position)
    It is awful easy for a lot of people to be careless with other peoples money. Do you trust your next door neighbors with yours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's a shame some of the Social Democrats are pledging to take even that forced through punitive fines product away and make us all settle for Medicare. How would your DIL have fared under that?
    DH and I are on Medicare, and we do pay for a Medicare supplement as well, and we are so much better off than we were on commercial healthcare. My husband has been to specialists and hospitals all winter and I shudder to think about where we would have been if he had gotten sick just two weeks earlier, when he was 64.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff View Post
    On Colbert the other night (just caught this after checking Netflix for a show), 2% of the 75,000 families with $50,000,000.00 or more in the bank, to cover all American's for health care, reduce student loans (didn't say eliminate), build new housing and I think I am missing something because:



    I was thinking they must have fixed Social Security and balanced the budget, after all how long has she been in office? (2013 and she is not currently focused on her current, representation position)
    It is awful easy for a lot of people to be careless with other peoples money. Do you trust your next door neighbors with yours?
    I dont even want to own real estate with other people as in condominiums. They make stupid decisions about maintenance. I have seen far too many condo associations blow money on dumb stuff when major structural repairs and roofs HVAC systems etc. need to be considered.

    So no, I do not trust other people with my money to Spend on my general well-being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    "Virtue signalling" is just name calling by those who resent other people having any. IMO
    When a Senator has a “Spartacus Moment” when he claims to have risked expulsion by leaking previously cleared documents, I think that’s virtue signaling.

    When an actor defies the threat of violence after staging an attack on himself, I think that’s virtue signaling.

    Dismissal of the idea as mere resentment of one’s virtue would seem to be similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's a shame some of the Social Democrats are pledging to take even that forced through punitive fines product away and make us all settle for Medicare. How would your DIL have fared under that?
    I am on Medicare. I have excellent coverage with my supplement. Less than $3,000 per year (including Medicare premiums) for insurance with an excellent vision and drug plan. Routine teeth cleanings. I can see any MD that accepts Medicare. If you have a lot of medical problems you might have to pay more to reach your out of pocket maximum, but it is way less than I’ve paid pre Medicare.
    Anyone would be crazy not to think that was a great deal.
    I do think that Medicare for all could be phased in gradually. Say first include any citizen 62-65 who has worked x amount of credits, and maybe for a slightly higher premium until they reach age 65. Then a few years later down to age 59. And so on. After ten years or so you would have a lot of younger healthy people on the plan so the cost would be spread out.
    This would be a form of taxation, but you could take your chances and go without. Medical care is expensive, so paying premiums of some sort, whether by taxation or premiums is to be expected.

    One of the bigger problems we have is people being brainwashed that Medicare is free. It is not by a long stretch. However, the more people who are eligible who are covered, the less stress on our urgent cares and emergency rooms. Getting preventative care, like diabetes, cancer and hypertension screenings will nip many very expensive problems in the bud.
    Expect great resistance, though, from drug, equipment, and insurance companies. They are becoming very rich hiking prices for insulin (discovered 100 years ago), epipens and so on. And don’t forget those CEO and executive bonuses and salaries. And big shiny buildings.

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