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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    No, Republican logic says it's not required so there's no reason to do so. I point out that sort of thing for two reasons, one to point out the obvious and two to give several of you the opportunity to vent your hate in a safe space, where that Alan guy living in your head doesn't exist.

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    I suppose you’re right. The founders would not have cared if a tax cheat or someone laundering money for people from a foreign adversary became president so these laws that the dems ought to pass are pointless. Of course they would have expected the emoluments clause and the inpeachment part of te constitution to be sufficient to deal with this. But that’s probably because they had no idea how the legal industry would develop into the monster it’s become where the letter of the law is more important than the intent. Hence the reason we will have to codify everything that was accepted on the honor system prior to the current honor-free presidency.

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    Has a presidential campaign ever been derailed by a candidate’s 1040?

    If a candidate didn’t list laundering cash for Slavic despots on his Schedule C, would that change the mind of perfervid conspiracy theorists?

    Don’t people simply want to mine the information therein to confirm suspicions?

    Have we taken transparency to the level of political porn?

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    If T considers it his right to privacy as president with no existing laws forcing him to do so, he should just say so. His weak reasoning that he is under audit leads one to think he is hiding something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    If T considers it his right to privacy as president with no existing laws forcing him to do so, he should just say so. His weak reasoning that he is under audit leads one to think he is hiding something.
    I don’t doubt that, but suspicion someone is hiding some unspecified thing doesn’t override the right to privacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Has a presidential campaign ever been derailed by a candidate’s 1040?

    If a candidate didn’t list laundering cash for Slavic despots on his Schedule C, would that change the mind of perfervid conspiracy theorists?

    Don’t people simply want to mine the information therein to confirm suspicions?

    Have we taken transparency to the level of political porn?
    “Perfervid” is our LDAHL word of the day. There have been several of those lately!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    If T considers it his right to privacy as president with no existing laws forcing him to do so, he should just say so. His weak reasoning that he is under audit leads one to think he is hiding something.
    And given the importance of the voting public being confident that they aren’t electing a russian agent to be the most powerful person in the world this is exactly why we need to have a law requiring disclosure. In the past we relied on political norms to prevent this possibility. But now that we have the unfortunate experience of having a president who doesn't believe in norms it’s become apparent that we need to codify our norms into law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    And given the importance of the voting public being confident that they aren’t electing a russian agent to be the most powerful person in the world this is exactly why we need to have a law requiring disclosure. In the past we relied on political norms to prevent this possibility. But now that we have the unfortunate experience of having a president who doesn't believe in norms it’s become apparent that we need to codify our norms into law.
    When I got my security clearance, they asked me if I was a foreign agent. I said “nyet”, but they insisted on a background check anyway. It’s hard to imagine a spy disclosing his activities on his tax return, but maybe we missed that part of the Steele dossier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I don’t doubt that, but suspicion someone is hiding some unspecified thing doesn’t override the right to privacy.
    Nor does fairly obvious deception inspire confidence in a leader's veracity and rectitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Nor does fairly obvious deception inspire confidence in a leader's veracity and rectitude.
    I agree. But do you really need this particular leader’s tax return to make that determination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    When I got my security clearance, they asked me if I was a foreign agent. I said “nyet”, but they insisted on a background check anyway. It’s hard to imagine a spy disclosing his activities on his tax return, but maybe we missed that part of the Steele dossier.
    I don’t think he’s smart enough to be a spy. I do, however, think putin is smart enough to take advantage of him. The easiest way to do that would probably be to wildly overpay for real estate assets. Tax returns likely would show that.

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