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    Oh please. After being tossed out of office by the voters, he dedicated his life to the proposition that those who can't do preach. He violated the tradition of close-mouthed ex-presidents to lecture us about the practical and moral failings of various world leaders and writing self-justifying books. I can't believe people were taken in by his hagiography.

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    Dang. Jimmy carter is a virtue signaler? Just wow. I hate to break it to you but i doubt your ability to judge character if that’s the opinion you’ve developed about him.
    tip: if someone starts talking about virtue signaling ignore the rest of what they are saying, people who use meaningless terms aren't worth engaging. Now there are terms with meaning: hypocrisy, showing off (and with clear terms we so how minor these things are in the scheme of things). And there are actions that are ineffective. And if that's what they meant, well I don't know is this stuff ever sincere, but fine they have poor communication skills.
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    virtue signalling

    noun [ U ]

    uk (us virtue signaling) UK

    an attempt to show other people that you are a good person, for example by expressing opinions that will be acceptable to them, especially on social media:
    Virtue signalling is the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favour for certain political ideas or cultural happenings.




    (Definition of “virtue signalling” from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)

    Many observers point out the act of refuting virtue signaling is itself a form of virtue signaling. I'll have to think about that one.






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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Sure would. But I’d prefer them to be competent and perhaps a tad less self-righteous. Reagan was a nice change.
    Reagan was an actor who acted. He's famous for his tale of a non-existent "welfare queen in a Cadillac," union-busting, Iran-Contra, and more recently "UN monkeys who aren't used to wearing shoes." His stroke of luck was meeting Nancy and her right-wing father who informed his career trajectory. He apparently had no qualms about dropping his pro-union "values" to follow the money. The best thing he did in life, IMO, was to father Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Reagan was an actor who acted. He's famous for his tale of a non-existent "welfare queen in a Cadillac," union-busting, Iran-Contra, and more recently "UN monkeys who aren't used to wearing shoes." His stroke of luck was meeting Nancy and her right-wing father who informed his career trajectory. He apparently had no qualms about dropping his pro-union "values" to follow the money. The best thing he did in life, IMO, was to father Ron.
    He also ranks in the top 10 of every historian or scholar list of best presidents, though leftists didn't like him for some reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    tip: if someone starts talking about virtue signaling ignore the rest of what they are saying, people who use meaningless terms aren't worth engaging. Now there are terms with meaning: hypocrisy, showing off (and with clear terms we so how minor these things are in the scheme of things). And there are actions that are ineffective. And if that's what they meant, well I don't know is this stuff ever sincere, but fine they have poor communication skills.
    I straight up disagree with you which is why I am speaking baldly.

    I think the phrase “virtue signaling” is perfect for so much of what I encounter on the Internet. So much of the blather I run into, not necessarily here that is true, is knee jerk scolding.

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    Ldahl, the world would be a much better place if everyone was as horrible as jimmy Carter. People criticize him as a president but you are the first person I have ever known to criticize him as a human being. If it wasn’t so sad I would be laughing. Carry on and vote again for your idol the Orange Idiot.

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    To be fair ldahl doesnt idolize, or even like trump. He just doesn’t seem to think that any other person is any better and that anytime anyone speaks out for somerhing they believe in they are only doing it as a way to prove that they are better than someone like trump, not because they may actually BE better than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Ldahl, the world would be a much better place if everyone was as horrible as jimmy Carter. People criticize him as a president but you are the first person I have ever known to criticize him as a human being. If it wasn’t so sad I would be laughing. Carry on and vote again for your idol the Orange Idiot.
    I don’t think Carter is a horrible person, just horribly annoying. The late Christopher Hitchens wrote some hilarious stuff on that subject.

    And you’re throwing in some other assumptions at no extra charge. I didn’t vote for Mr. Trump, and never thought much of him. You don’t seem to have read or comprehended many of my posts on the topic.

    Why bring Trump into every discussion as a sort of shibboleth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    To be fair ldahl doesnt idolize, or even like trump. He just doesn’t seem to think that any other person is any better and that anytime anyone speaks out for somerhing they believe in they are only doing it as a way to prove that they are better than someone like trump, not because they may actually BE better than him.
    I think there are plenty of better people than Trump, and some even worse. I wish that right now we were arguing about President Rubio or Walker or Cruz. I’m grateful we are not arguing about President Clinton or Sanders.

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