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    I was off today and I spent part of the day reading about the protests in Hong Kong and what is behind them. It's really scary to me as it seems Mainland China is no longer honoring the terms of the signover of Hong Kong from Great Britian. What do you'all think of what's going down in Hong Kong? I for one sense that Hong Kong will not emerge from this quite the same. Rob

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    I totally agree Rob.

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    It's interesting to see all the American flags and statements of support for American style democracy among the protesters. Rob, don't you find it odd that they put themselves at risk for something you disdain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's interesting to see all the American flags and statements of support for American style democracy among the protesters. Rob, don't you find it odd that they put themselves at risk for something you disdain?
    Alan, the Honk Kong democracy activists want American style democracy and civil liberty only as a first step!
    The second and final step will be transforming into a Mexican style government. That will be the true victory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultralight View Post
    Alan, the Honk Kong democracy activists want American style democracy and civil liberty only as a first step!
    The second and final step will be transforming into a Mexican style government. That will be the true victory!
    ? No comprende? (I know the first question mark is supposed to be upside down but I don't have a Spanish language keyboard). Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    It's interesting to see all the American flags and statements of support for American style democracy among the protesters. Rob, don't you find it odd that they put themselves at risk for something you disdain?
    Sure doesn't seem as if the US (or any other Democratic developed nation for that matter) is extending much if any support to the protestors. And if I lived in Hong Kong, I'd be protesting, too. I never said I was a Communist. Not once since I arrived here September 2005. I only want healthcare access for all citizens and checks and balances against all law enforcement with more LEO convictions and imprisonment for breaking laws. And much fairer and saner income distribution. I'd call myself a Democratic Socialist, not a Communist. Communism is doomed to fail because there is no real incentive to bother to.care...American style capitalism is doomed to fail because it's based on fear of loss for most people. Both systems are highly toxic as far as I am concerned. But once again were I a resident/citizen of Hong Kong, I'd be protesting, too. Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    Sure doesn't seem as if the US (or any other Democratic developed nation for that matter) is extending much if any support to the protestors. And if I lived in Hong Kong, I'd be protesting, too. I never said I was a Communist. Not once since I arrived here September 2005. I only want healthcare access for all citizens and checks and balances against all law enforcement with more LEO convictions and imprisonment for breaking laws. And much fairer and saner income distribution. I'd call myself a Democratic Socialist, not a Communist. Communism is doomed to fail because there is no real incentive to bother to.care...American style capitalism is doomed to fail because it's based on fear of loss for most people. Both systems are highly toxic as far as I am concerned. But once again were I a resident/citizen of Hong Kong, I'd be protesting, too. Rob
    I don't think anyone has ever suggested you were a communist. I've been impressed with the protesters in Hong Kong because they don't seem to be interested in those things that fuel your protest fantasies. They want liberty and independence which is often at odds with your socialist desires, so I was surprised to see you start a thread showing support for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I don't think anyone has ever suggested you were a communist. I've been impressed with the protesters in Hong Kong because they don't seem to be interested in those things that fuel your protest fantasies. They want liberty and independence which is often at odds with your socialist desires, so I was surprised to see you start a thread showing support for them.
    This probably won't surprise you, Alan, but the one thing that has me supporting the protestors? How the police turned on the people of Hong Kong. A absolutely unforgivable. And I'm not down with Beijing deciding a HKG resident is a criminal and then sending them to the mainland for prosecution. Per the signover agreement with Great Britain, is not HKG supposed to have it's own judiciary until 2047? That one right there would be enough to get me into the streets personally. Rob

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    I love that the protesters are using laser pointers. In places like Gaza they have to resort to stones. This is much cooler.

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    What’s the best US response? Trade sanctions? Sell some F-35s to Taiwan? A cable news pontification offensive?

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