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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I’m sad to think that Trump will probably beat her.
    You'd think that a Trump loss would be inevitable, and yet I honestly believe if the Democrats nominate Warren or Sanders they're effectively sealing the deal on another 4 years of liberals in agony. I'll have a hard time not reminding some here that "I told you so".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    You'd think that a Trump loss would be inevitable, and yet I honestly believe if the Democrats nominate Warren or Sanders they're effectively sealing the deal on another 4 years of liberals in agony. I'll have a hard time not reminding some here that "I told you so".
    Who? Biden? I don't think so. Then you have some good potential candidates in the lower tier, but their numbers are in the single digit. No one has risen above in that second tier.

    Now, in RealClearPolitics, the polls show that in Iowa, Bernie is the only one that shows a positive win vs Trump. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ders-6788.html

    So, I also would not underestimate the power of the more progressive arm of the Democratic Party to fare better than the "middlin'" Democrats. People want change. That's how Trump got elected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    Who? Biden? I don't think so. Then you have some good potential candidates in the lower tier, but their numbers are in the single digit. No one has risen above in that second tier.
    I agree with you on Biden, but as of today Buttigieg has passed Sanders in Iowa according to the latest Suffolk University/USA Today poll. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ll/4025797002/
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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
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    So, I also would not underestimate the power of the more progressive arm of the Democratic Party to fare better than the "middlin'" Democrats. People want change. That's how Trump got elected.
    Oh God, yes. For years I voted for anyone but the "anointed" of either party. Finally, the Democrats are showing actual progressive ideas, and I hope this is a move away from the Fascist and Republican Lite choices we've been stuck with for decades now. As Warren Buffet famously said “There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.” I'm too old to emigrate; I'd like to actually see "government of the people, by the people, and for the people" realized in my lifetime.

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    Campaign promises are notoriously over ambitious. I'm undecided on how realistic the Democratic progressives are, as much as I like or dislike them. We've gone through Obama, Hillary and Trump backlashes that have divided politics, like maybe at least since Nixon. I'd like to see a candidate that runs on the bring America together again platform, with BATA hats even. So far the moderates are in a better position for that than the progressives. And that means a higher probability of getting more done.

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