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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    I’m not taking about this case. I mean cops period. If you come across a cop who is Mexican are you going to be in fear of him or will you look differently at him since he’s Mexican?
    I would see either a male or female Hispanic law enforcement officer the same way I would view any other. Smartphone record, refuse any conversation, proceed with caution and sue if possible/indicated by said officer's actions. Does this answer your question? Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    I would see either a male or female Hispanic law enforcement officer the same way I would view any other. Smartphone record, refuse any conversation, proceed with caution and sue if possible/indicated by said officer's actions. Does this answer your question? Rob
    Yes, it does. Cops are scum and any Mexican who was misguided enough to put on a badge would be damaged goods.

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    [QUOTE=gimmethesimplelife;335158]Tradd, OUCH! I didn't go quite that far. Smartphone video every day all around America had proven many cops can't be trusted.....I'm afraid there's no logical way to dispute that fact at this late date. I am not willing to take the risk of interacting with law enforcement - life is short and basic Human Rights matter. Are cops damaged goods? Good question.
    I actually believe some are not when they first enter the profession but that internal cop culture and internal pressures lead to the "them vs. us" mentality that indeed does lead to damaged goods status. Rob

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    Tradd, OUCH! I didn't go quite that far. Smartphone video every day all around America had proven many cops can't be trusted.....I'm afraid there's no logical way to dispute that fact at this late date. I am not willing to take the risk of interacting with law enforcement - life is short and basic Human Rights matter. Are cops damaged goods? Good question.
    I actually believe some are not when they first enter the profession but that internal cop culture and internal pressures lead to the "them vs. us" mentality that indeed does lead to damaged goods status. Rob

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    20 years ago I lived in a condo where most of the residents were elderly. I knew many of the people. I got a phone call from a guy’s family that lived above me that they hadn’t heard from him in a week. So I went to the parking lot and his car was there. I pounded on his door and he didn’t answer. I called the police and he had been dead for a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife View Post
    With all due respect I disagree. It is true that things are changing - granted and given. It is also true that in Texas and the Deep South that such murders have historically been swept under the rug, especially given that the deceased was an African American male. How to forgive America for this unfortunate and very true reality? I have no idea, I really don't as I'm far too much of a humanitarian not to see this fact for the evil it truly is. But, I will also say that things are changing....the results of the Guyger trial do seem to highlight a societal shift here. Good to see, I will grant that. And very, very, very long overdue. Rob
    History is what it is, and doesn’t ask to be forgiven. Carrying a burden of bitterness for the sins of centuries past is pointless.

    Speaking of forgiveness, I don’t see how anyone could fail to be uplifted by the level of grace the victim’s brother demonstrated. I know I couldn’t in that situation.

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    Rob have you ever been to the lynching museum in Alabama? I think it would interest you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    History is what it is, and doesn’t ask to be forgiven. Carrying a burden of bitterness for the sins of centuries past is pointless.

    Speaking of forgiveness, I don’t see how anyone could fail to be uplifted by the level of grace the victim’s brother demonstrated. I know I couldn’t in that situation.
    speaking of forgiveness, there was mention in this thread of an Alabama case where a black man was given life at age 22 for stealing $50 in a bakery 36 years ago. He robbed it and had a pocket knife which he did not use. He had previous crimes, but none were violent and a life sentence was handed down. I read as much as I could find and it seems there are several hundreds of prisoners in the Alabama prison system under similar situations. They lack attorneys who are willing to do the work to get them out as this man did.
    He was trying to figure out who to give his possessions to as he left (including his thermal underwear it is so cold in the winter) there is so much deprivation there.
    perhaps instead of carrying a burden of bitterness for past sins we should look further for opportunities for forgiveness.

    The victims brother freed himself in this case and attained a higher level of personality spirituality than most of us can hope to achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Rob have you ever been to the lynching museum in Alabama? I think it would interest you.
    I have been there and lived in rural Tennessee for a while on a temporary job assignment. There are still many places today in the south where they might as well put a fence between the two sides of town. One side with bars on the windows, pristine lawns and not a soul in sight. The other side with people outside visiting, kids playing, barbecues going and people walking to stores etc. Guess which is the predominant color on each side?
    Of course, knowing nothing about the history of the town it would be a fascinating thing to study.
    even today, it is not unusual to go by a schoolyard of kids playing on recess and see an almost segregated schoolyard. Sometimes in elementary schools a few miles apart. Not just in the south

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    Speaking of forgiveness, I don’t see how anyone could fail to be uplifted by the level of grace the victim’s brother demonstrated. I know I couldn’t in that situation.
    I hadn't seen that but just watched it. Very uplifting. Forgiveness is so difficult, and I can imagine almost impossible in this situation.

    Yet, in the comments on the YouTube clip that I watched were nothing but cynical: "He did it to make white people happy," "he did it because he was on television." "Oh, it's fake forgiveness because it's too soon." "This is why America is going down-because we're a bunch of wimps who don't stand up for ourselves." I prefer to believe there are saints among us, and he is one of them.
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