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    Password protection

    I have been concerned about my passwords - protecting, accessing, autofill, etc. I had a 'rogue installer' that I apparently triggered in error. Now I use Chrome and DuckDuckGo on my laptop computer. When Apple repair switched my system from Safari to Chrome in order to add Adblock, I lost access to all my passwords. Fortunately I had them all on my iPhone. I don't feel secure about having the passwords to everything in my life so readily accessible.

    I have asked around for solutions and yesterday it was suggested that I look at 'Keeper'. It seems like a good solution, readily affordable at $30 (probably us$) per annum and would cover both my devices. I looked at references for this online and they do seem positive. Any pros or cons or things that I should be aware of before I sign up?
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    I love 1Password.

    As a bonus my son-in-law works for them and keeps me up to date with changes and how to best utilize it.

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    At work we have a new IT guy who is very gung tho on passwords and security. Apparently having them all on a spreadsheet tab labelled passwords didn't work for him!

    I've had my identity stolen, and thought in personal life I was adequately protected. So much to learn, though.

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    I use a simple scheme for generating unique passwords that I can remember.

    Uncommonword_Number_Name-of-Service_WackyPunctiation

    So, like:

    Platypus666Amazon!@#

    Platypus666Ebay!@#

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    My DIL is a cybersecurity expert for Dow Jones, so I do pet's name uppercase+year he was born+special character. Works every time! (Actually, my DIL had nothing to do with that scheme. She probably accepts those crazy auto-generated passwords.)

    I did have some problems with identity theft through Yahoo, but I generally trust I'll be pretty safe. I try not to worry too much. I do tons of online banking and buying. Haven't lost any money yet.
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    My step son worked in computer security in the military. He said to make up a sentence with a few numbers after it. You only use the first letter of every word. I used sentences I can remember.

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    Ok, day one with IT guy providing my passwords and I'm not a fan. He used the internet to generate a random string, then copy pasted it in my machine. He then read it off to me, for me to use. Well, there was both a lower case l and a numeral one, but he said there were two l's. Locked out for five minutes due to too many retries. Next he gave me a string with a zero, but called it an "oh". I used the letter - lockout! Ugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmerullo View Post
    Ok, day one with IT guy providing my passwords and I'm not a fan. He used the internet to generate a random string, then copy pasted it in my machine. He then read it off to me, for me to use. Well, there was both a lower case l and a numeral one, but he said there were two l's. Locked out for five minutes due to too many retries. Next he gave me a string with a zero, but called it an "oh". I used the letter - lockout! Ugh.
    oh yeah, I remember those days of going around with IT and their O0’s and l1 characters in password security.
    But it’s your fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lmerullo View Post
    Ok, day one with IT guy providing my passwords and I'm not a fan. He used the internet to generate a random string, then copy pasted it in my machine. He then read it off to me, for me to use. Well, there was both a lower case l and a numeral one, but he said there were two l's. Locked out for five minutes due to too many retries. Next he gave me a string with a zero, but called it an "oh". I used the letter - lockout! Ugh.
    The way around that is to simply not use the characters i, l, and o or the digits 0 or 1. Substitute a less ambiguous letter or digit. Z+0l5q1N becomes Z+9r5q3N . No less "crackable" and less prone to transcription errors.

    I use a password manager. I used to use a system similar to bae's but once some lax Web site exposes your password, it's not that hard to figure out others. A system like TT's is stronger but I have dozens of passwords to various sites and remembering phrases for that many sites just wasn't tenable -- especially when some sites age out passwords after a year or some other time period.

    I use 1Password on my Mac and iPhone. In fact, I subscribe to the Family version of the app so DW and even MiL in another city can use it. I like their proactivity in reacting to new attack vectors and it's so easy to use that it actually gets used. It's also a good place to store those security/verification questions many sites impose. There are other decent apps out there. Friends of mine use LastPass and I know there are fans of KeePass out there. I've chosen to stay with 1Password, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveinMN View Post
    The way around that is to simply not use the characters i, l, and o or the digits 0 or 1...
    Well no kidding! Back in my working days I wasnt in control of some of these decisions.

    But I really do need to use password protector software.

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