Anyone else here just not down with Biden as the Dem 2020 Candidate?

**gimmethesimplelife** · 1-1-20, 4:48pm

I've tried and tried and I just personally can not see Biden as a viable Democratic candidate against Trump. To me, I'm afraid of another Hillary/Trump type of election, with similar rhetoric minus certain issues (due to the fact that both Biden and Trump are male is what I am getting at here). Just nasty and I'm really not sure Biden is capable of holding his own against intense attacks of the caliber Trump will be dishing out (likely Trump will be the GOP candidate, can anyone realistically see the Senate impeaching him for real? I can't - the rule of law doesn't apply to individuals of Trump's status/net worth in America).

But I digress. Do any other DEMS or independents or shoot, even Conservatives hope it's NOT Biden that snags the Democratic Nomination? Rob

Yppej · 1-1-20, 5:10pm

I hope it is someone else. Biden is dishonest and will do anything to win. In the past he plagiarized others' work to the point of even claiming his family worked in the coal mines when they did not. We need someone with integrity not Trump lite.

**catherine** · 1-1-20, 5:15pm

I agree. If Trump was able to beat up Hillary on the basis of Benghazi and the Email-gate, what would he do with Biden?? If Bush's campaign could make KERRY out to be the unpatriotic one with the Swift Boat thing, when BUSH was a draft-dodger and Kerry actually served, anything can and will happen to demonize Biden. Of course, all Dems are vulnerable, but Biden definitely has some baggage to be leveraged.

**gimmethesimplelife** · 1-1-20, 5:20pm

Originally Posted by catherine

I agree. If Trump was able to beat up Hillary on the basis of Benghazi and the Email-gate, what would he do with Biden?? If Bush's campaign could make KERRY out to be the unpatriotic one with the Swift Boat thing, when BUSH was a draft-dodger and Kerry actually served, anything can and will happen to demonize Biden. Of course, all Dems are vulnerable, but Biden definitely has some baggage to be leveraged.

What amazes me, Catherine, is that Trump himself shares something with his former opponent Hillary Clinton: They both carry with them enough baggage to sink the Titanic. But somehow Trump is able to spin his baggage away, and enough American voters let him get away with this to their detriment. Sometimes I get riled up at American voters more than I do at Trump.....for being responsible to voting in this monster. Rob

**catherine** · 1-1-20, 5:28pm

Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

What amazes me, Catherine, is that Trump himself shares something with his former opponent Hillary Clinton: They both carry with them enough baggage to sink the Titanic. But somehow Trump is able to spin his baggage away, and enough American voters let him get away with this to their detriment. Sometimes I get riled up at American voters more than I do at Trump.....for being responsible to voting in this monster. Rob

True, but Biden lacks the ability and the charisma to generate a cult following. That's the difference. My DH is going to vote for Trump again, probably (unless Bernie gets the Democratic nomination, which he won't but he should--he got 5 million individual donations in Q4, out-earning all the other Democratic candidates). DH believes that Trump is doing a great job, even though he admits he's a jerk. He believes you can be an a$$ and still be a good president. I think a lot of people feel that way.

**LDAHL** · 1-1-20, 5:36pm

Originally Posted by Yppej

I hope it is someone else. Biden is dishonest and will do anything to win. In the past he plagiarized others' work to the point of even claiming his family worked in the coal mines when they did not. We need someone with integrity not Trump lite.

Part of me would welcome a Trump/Biden contest. It would be a titanic battle between two of America’s most prodigious prevaricaters. Possibly just the emetic we need to purge our system of the worst excesses.

**Teacher Terry** · 1-1-20, 5:53pm

I worry about any of the Democrats being able to beat Trump. I do think certain things work against candidates such as being female, gay, etc. Not everyone is open minded. The whole thing is incredibly depressing. When a Republican has won in the past that I didn’t like I stayed open to the possibility that I would change my mind. This thing inhabiting the White House doesn’t have one redeeming quality.

**gimmethesimplelife** · 1-1-20, 6:41pm

Originally Posted by Teacher Terry

I worry about any of the Democrats being able to beat Trump. I do think certain things work against candidates such as being female, gay, etc. Not everyone is open minded. The whole thing is incredibly depressing. When a Republican has won in the past that I didn’t like I stayed open to the possibility that I would change my mind. This thing inhabiting the White House doesn’t have one redeeming quality.

He did sign the bill to make animal cruelty a Federal felony. I am grateful for that. But Hillary would have done the same ....and I agree with your referring to Trump as "this thing." Rob

**Alan** · 1-1-20, 6:48pm

Originally Posted by Teacher Terry

This thing inhabiting the White House doesn’t have one redeeming quality.

Sure he does, he brings out the very worst in Democrats and that's always entertaining.

Originally Posted by gimmethesimplelife

....and I agree with your referring to Trump as "this thing." Rob

See?

**Teacher Terry** · 1-1-20, 7:11pm

Rob, you are correct the animal bill was good.

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