Conavirus......

[flowerseverywhere]

OK, I'll bite. At this point, what part of the US response to the coronavirus is inadequate?

from Fox News a quote from a Republican Governor in a red state
as of this weekend we had no testing kits.


https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/st...or-coronavirus

Trump declares rallies are safe. Since we have no idea what our outbreak status is large gatherings may or may not be.

https://www.localsyr.com/news/politi...virus-anxiety/

in the real world, the Louvre has shut down. Italian soccer team played in an empty stadium to avoid crowds


https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/28/footb...ntl/index.html

we have no idea how many cases we have due to lack of test kits. Physicians had to call the CDC to obtain one and justify why they wanted to test.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/02/coro...st-people.html

Mike Pence, the head of the outbreak team is a lawyer, not a physician or infectious disease specialist.

We have asomething like 30 million people uninsured in the US despite ten years of republicans saying they would repeal and replace the ACA. Trump said he had a plan that would cover more people, be better and cheaper. Uninsured people are less likely to visit a physician which could lead to more spread.

Our response has been inadequate and poorly run. Trump says a vaccine is around the corner, experts Say it could be a year away.

Our number one one priority should be to determining be where we stand with number of cases. Protect our health care professionals or we are really going to be in trouble. Have daily unedited honest updates by the CDC.

[sweetana3]

Flowerseverywhere, I feel the same way. Here is another article with some info on the CDC issues: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...zcvOF82x67ykzw

[gimmethesimplelife]

Supplies of astragulus tincture (an herbal immune booster) seem to be already running low though I did manage to find a 2 ounce bottle. To date, oil of oregano and echinacea with goldenseal is not hard to find. I have seen prepper buying here in Phoenix but shelves are mostly all stocked to date and I have yet to see panic buying.

I'm not sure how US border communities are faring. Rob

[Rogar]

Flowerseverywhere may have some points, but I suspect some of the problems maybe at the CDC administrative level and would have persisted with any president. I think the basic problem is that we can expect the president to deceive the people to protect the economy, he lacks good communication skills, and he's appointed a scientific moron who has hinted at not believing in evolution to be in charge. Everything else follows.

Competent leadership could go further than deception when it comes to reducing over reactions and offering realistic expectations.

[Tammy]

We now think there have been many cases for several weeks throughout the USA and we are only recognizing it now because most cases are not serious enough to be diagnosed. This would happen under any administration. It’s just frustrating to watch our president make up his own facts about this, but that is not a new behavior for him.

[Tybee]

We now think there have been many cases for several weeks throughout the USA and we are only recognizing it now because most cases are not serious enough to be diagnosed. This would happen under any administration. It’s just frustrating to watch our president make up his own facts about this, but that is not a new behavior for him.

Right, it's apparent the cases have been out there. So closing schools etc. feels a lot like closing the barn door after the horse is out. But Tammy, I guess that is what my earlier question was about--how does it help to close schools etc and limit travel etc.--how does that affect the spread of disease once it's out there, and is it effective, and do you think that is what is coming--people being forced to stay at home, the way they are in China?

[JaneV2.0]

Supplies of astragulus tincture (an herbal immune booster) seem to be already running low though I did manage to find a 2 ounce bottle. To date, oil of oregano and echinacea with goldenseal is not hard to find. I have seen prepper buying here in Phoenix but shelves are mostly all stocked to date and I have yet to see panic buying.

I'm not sure how US border communities are faring. Rob

My remedies of choice (for any respiratory concern) are saline lavages, zinc, and vitamin C. I've added elderberry syrup. Amazon still has zinc (pills and lozenges),and nasal spray (which I've bought gallons of), and elderberry syrup--which I'm too lazy to make at this point. One of the doctors giving advice yesterday mentioned using zinc lozenges and lying down, if necessary, to let them dissolve slowly near the back of your throat. You can make your own nasal solution:
https://blogs.bcm.edu/2014/08/20/sal...llergy-relief/

The boiled or distilled water part is important.

ETA: Trial of saline solution against microbes--https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-37703-3#Abs1

In the intervention arm, duration of illness was lower by 1.9 days (p = 0.01), over-the-counter medications (OTCM) use by 36% (p = 0.004), transmission within household contacts by 35% (p = 0.006) and viral shedding by ≥0.5 log10/day (p = 0.04). We hence need a larger trial to confirm our findings.

[Teacher Terry]

A health care worker in placerville has it which is only a few hours away. My sister in Chicago said the home show was canceled which meant that they lost the revenue from 47000 hotel rooms plus food, etc.

[Tradd]

My company has now banned all non-essential domestic airline travel, as well.

HR in each country (we’ve got offices across the globe) has been asked to put together a plan if people are unable to make it to the office. IT has so far refused to install the bit of remote desktop software needed to access industry software on non-company owner computers. We’ve asked. So they would have to issue laptops to everyone in order for us to work from home. Currently only supervisors on up have a laptop that can be taken home.

[JaneV2.0]

Anecdotal reports out of Seattle indicate it's impossible to get tested unless you meet narrow, clearly outdated, criteria. There is a maze of contact numbers, each one telling you to call another. chaos rules. I've read that Vietnam has it contained, with no new cases.