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    My state's Department of Elementary and Secondary Education is letting bad teachers move from school to school much as the Catholic Church used to let bad priests move from parish to parish. By bad teachers I mean they are letting kids watch porn in class, are sexually harassing other teachers, etc. But hey, the DESE is forcing kids with miniscule risks from covid to all wear masks. Priorities, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    My state's Department of Elementary and Secondary Education is letting bad teachers move from school to school much as the Catholic Church used to let bad priests move from parish to parish. By bad teachers I mean they are letting kids watch porn in class, are sexually harassing other teachers, etc. But hey, the DESE is forcing kids with miniscule risks from covid to all wear masks. Priorities, right?
    The news stories on this must be missing some of the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    The news stories on this must be missing some of the details.
    Here are some details:

    https://www.wcvb.com/article/5-inves...lity/38256912#

    A followup story last night covered teachers being moved from school to school.

    Read it and weep,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post

    Read it and weep,
    Were gambling now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Here are some details:

    https://www.wcvb.com/article/5-inves...lity/38256912#

    A followup story last night covered teachers being moved from school to school.

    Read it and weep,
    I guess Im still missing something. It says the supervisors (which it said earlier in the article were the ones giving porn to the kids) involved in this were no longer working there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I guess I’m still missing something. It says the supervisors (which it said earlier in the article were the ones giving porn to the kids) involved in this were no longer working there.
    Here is the follow-up story:

    https://www.wcvb.com/article/5-inves...again/38337795
    Last edited by Yppej; 11-24-21 at 6:45am. Reason: Add colon

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    From our local news.

    Larimer County adopted a mask order when its hospitals got overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases along with a surge on other medical needs. It’s had an impact, Jefferson County public health director Dawn Comstock told Jeffco’s board.
    “Hospital admissions are now down approximately 33 percent since the beginning of the mask mandate in Larimer County,” she said.
    “Public health orders in Boulder and Larimer counties have led to increased mask-wearing and kept hospitalizations lower,” said Lexi Nolen, Boulder County Public Health's deputy director. “We see that our towns on county borders are experiencing higher case rates.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    From our local news.

    Larimer County adopted a mask order when its hospitals got overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases along with a surge on other medical needs. It’s had an impact, Jefferson County public health director Dawn Comstock told Jeffco’s board.
    “Hospital admissions are now down approximately 33 percent since the beginning of the mask mandate in Larimer County,” she said.
    “Public health orders in Boulder and Larimer counties have led to increased mask-wearing and kept hospitalizations lower,” said Lexi Nolen, Boulder County Public Health's deputy director. “We see that our towns on county borders are experiencing higher case rates.”
    I am not convinced.

    Covid comes in waves, so the decrease could be that it has peaked in this area. If masks work, why are positivity rates lowest in states like South Carolina, Texas or Florida that did not have mandates?

    There is also the assumption that people don't travel outside the borders of the town or county where the mask mandate is in place, and that people only gather places where there are mask mandates.

    For instance, my city has a mask mandate for municipal buildings, but people go many other places including private businesses and private homes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    From our local news.

    Larimer County adopted a mask order when its hospitals got overwhelmed with COVID-19 cases along with a surge on other medical needs. It’s had an impact, Jefferson County public health director Dawn Comstock told Jeffco’s board.
    “Hospital admissions are now down approximately 33 percent since the beginning of the mask mandate in Larimer County,” she said.
    “Public health orders in Boulder and Larimer counties have led to increased mask-wearing and kept hospitalizations lower,” said Lexi Nolen, Boulder County Public Health's deputy director. “We see that our towns on county borders are experiencing higher case rates.”
    I very much doubt that one county’s mandate keeps that county safe while neighboring unmasked counties spread the disease at a very high level.

    Masks provide some mitigation of spread. People on either side of the mask mandate argument are fooling themselves that either is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I very much doubt that one county’s mandate keeps that county safe while neighboring unmasked counties spread the disease at a very high level.

    Masks provide some mitigation of spread. People on either side of the mask mandate argument are fooling themselves that either is correct.
    Maybe, maybe not. I think one thing the mask mandate does do is that it elevates the awareness of increased risk, so there are other behavioral changes that go along with it.

    Our hospitals are at or near near capacity. I suspect if things don't improve there will be further restrictions on indoor activities and no one wants that. Businesses that require staff and customers to be vaccinated are exempt so the slogan is, "Mask or vax". It sounds like the penalties will not be too harsh and other than blatant violations there will not be especially strict enforcement.

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