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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    One reason there were refrigerated semis is funeral homes weren't allowed to operate their normal hours due to lockdowns in places like NYC. That caused a bottleneck. Remember all the surge hospitals and hospital ships that weren't used or barely used?
    Far as I know there were no funeral home lockdowns around here, but there were refrigerated death semis. However funeral services were restricted. Do you really know that funeral homes were on lockdown or just making it up? It's all retrospect now, but I doubt there would have been enough medical staffing for any covid hospital overflows. There was barely enough or a short fall as it was. To deny the potential severity of the situation at one time is purely delusional.

    This article is called, "a nightmare every day inside a funeral home". From the old days. Photos and accounts of dead stacked up like firewood.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/04/u...eral-home.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
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    I think the philosophy behind vaccines has changed or is changing. At one point there was an expectation that being vaccinated would prevent illnesses. Then came the break through infections and the realization that the absolute protection against illness was short lived without routine boosters. But the vaccines did provide a long term protection against severe illness, hospitalizations, or death. I think that is now the intention of the proposed new FDA guidelines. Less frequent shots for long term protection against severe illness. Plus maybe boosters for high risk populations. Along with a natural immunity from natural infections it seems to be keeping things in check, but it's a mistake to assume people are not dying from covid no matter how you look at it.

    If we could just turn back the clock with what we know now, things may have been better or worse, but they probably would have been less restrictive.
    I guess there are two kinds of infections that vaccines can target--systemic ones like measles, and respiratory ones like colds. From what I understand, the systemic ones are much easier to treat with an immunizing dose, as they aren't constantly mutating. That's why scientists are always playing whack-a-mole with seasonal flu variants, and that will undoubtedly be the case with COVID.

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    Long covid, anyone? Lingering problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    Far as I know there were no funeral home lockdowns around here, but there were refrigerated death semis. However funeral services were restricted. Do you really know that funeral homes were on lockdown or just making it up? It's all retrospect now, but I doubt there would have been enough medical staffing for any covid hospital overflows. There was barely enough or a short fall as it was. To deny the potential severity of the situation at one time is purely delusional.

    This article is called, "a nightmare every day inside a funeral home". From the old days. Photos and accounts of dead stacked up like firewood.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/04/u...eral-home.html
    What a nasty response. I don't just make things up. And not that you deserve it, but I'm going to provide you with an article that, unlike your link, doesn't have a paywall.

    "Under New York rules, the funerals are limited to no more than 10 people, and he can conduct just three per day"

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/05/82697...covid-19-cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Long covid, anyone? Lingering problems?
    Not sure. Respiratory/sinus issues. Actually will finally be seeing my gp to discuss some of these issues and hopefully see what is truly causing them.
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    As for bodies piling up and needing outside coolers, Seattle is having trouble with fentanyl deaths.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-a...ficial-reveals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    What a nasty response. I don't just make things up. And not that you deserve it, but I'm going to provide you with an article that, unlike your link, doesn't have a paywall.

    "Under New York rules, the funerals are limited to no more than 10 people, and he can conduct just three per day"

    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/05/82697...covid-19-cases
    So, as I recall the discussion, you said bodies were piling up in semis because funeral homes were on a partial lockdown. What seems to be the case is more that the funeral homes were overwhelmed with mortalities. At any rate, a lot of people were sick and dying and the entire health and funeral chain was overwhelmed, which I think was the point before being derailed. I keep reminding myself not to discuss such things with certain people, but I apologize. I failed.

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    One of our hospitals had to turn part of its parking garage into rooms because they ran out of rooms to put the people sick with Covid. Luckily it has mutated into a much milder disease and now the people that die from it are also likely to die if they get the flu because of a compromised immune system or just poor health.

    Italy didn’t lockdown initially and had much higher death rates than other countries. I was happy to get the 3 vaccines but now I find it no longer necessary just like I have never taken a flu shot.

    Some people are suffering with long covid and my doctor said some of her patients are bad off from it. But people are also being vaccine injured and I know 3 people this happened to so this also has to be weighed into the equation. Covid has become very complicated and there’s no one right way to respond.

    This is the first time I have personally known anyone that has been injured by a vaccine and all 3 were told by their doctors not to take anymore. Personally I don’t care what the CDC or any doctor recommends because each person has to live with the results of their decisions. Sadly there’s not enough information to make a definitive conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Long covid, anyone? Lingering problems?
    Indeed. The most recent statistic I read on this is that roughly 7% of Americans are CURRENTLY suffering long covid. I personally have a good friend who is among that cohort, and has been since she was infected in the initial wave in NYC over 2 1/2 years ago. To this day she can't walk more than half a block before she has to stop and rest for several minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    Sadly there’s not enough information to make a definitive conclusion.
    Except, there is.

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