Conavirus......

[Yppej]

Sweden's proved the wisdom of sheltering in place. Its infection rate is by far the highest of the Nordic countries.

If this had the symptoms, infection rate, or mortality of the flu, playing around with herd immunity might be worthwhile, but all indications are that it's much more virulent than the flu. Russian roulette is a good metaphor.

Symptoms - agree covid is more serious for those who have symptoms
Infection rate - agree this is more contagious
Mortality - disagree. It only looks high because we are not testing widely and missing many asymptomatic people

What Sweden is doing is getting it over more quickly with a sharper curve rather than spreading it out over a flatter curve.

[Tybee]

I think we just don't know.

What the US did here in my community and many other places was dismantle healthcare in preparation for dealing with Covid, thus endangering people with many other conditions.

[JaneV2.0]

Symptoms - agree covid is more serious for those who have symptoms
Infection rate - agree this is more contagious
Mortality - disagree. It only looks high because we are not testing widely and missing many asymptomatic people

What Sweden is doing is getting it over more quickly with a sharper curve rather than spreading it out over a flatter curve.

It may be a long time until we know the true mortality rate--given the deliberate lack of testing--but if comparisons to the yearly flu are any indication, it doesn't look good.

[dado potato]

Memorial Day Weekend

People congregated at their favorite spots.

News media noticed the absence of social distancing and masks among the crowds at
Lake of the Ozarks MO
Ocean City MD
Daytona Beach FL
Carolina Beach NC
Myrtle Beach SC
Venice Beach CA
Galveston Island TX.

It got tense when 5 people were shot at Daytona Beach FL.

John Olivarri Mayor of Osage Beach MO expressed his sense of futility, I don't know how you would shut down Lake of the Ozarks. There's no way to control that. Source: http://nypost.com/2020/05/25/no-way-...f-ozarks-mayor

[Yppej]

Although I do not like my state's mask law I am obeying it, but many other people are not outdoors. I went on a walk yesterday and only one jogger lifted a mask over her face when she approached me. If I saw people I went off the path or if I could not because there was a fence in the way put my mask on. I felt very stupid. What am I going to all this hassle for when most people don't care? Who knows, maybe the jogger only did it because it is the law too.

[happystuff]

What am I going to all this hassle for when most people don't care? Who knows, maybe the jogger only did it because it is the law too.

Do YOU care?

I wear a mask because *I* care. I care about myself and I care about others. Other people will choose to do what they will do. I choose a mask because I care - it's really that simple a choice for me.

[Yppej]

I feel like the nerdy teacher's pet, the goody goody.

[Teacher Terry]

Same for me Happy. I want everyone to survive.

[Tybee]

Same for me Happy. I want everyone to survive.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say I think everyone here wants everyone to survive. Everyone here cares or they would not be trying to figure out how to best manage the situation, protect each other, and not endanger our own health. I liked what Tammy said somewhere, that two things can be true at the same time. I am attributing good motives to everyone here and hope that we can speak peaceably and respectfully to each other. This board has been a font of wisdom and support over the years; I hope we can keep it that way. Wishing you all good health and peace.

[frugal-one]

Went for a hike today and people would not move over on the trail. Mentioned social distancing and they laughed. It is getting discerning.