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    Nationally about 85.9% of people wear seatbelts.
    we still have traffic fatalities.
    So obviously seatbelts don’t work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken lady View Post
    Nationally about 85.9% of people wear seatbelts.
    we still have traffic fatalities.
    So obviously seatbelts don’t work.
    I wonder if there are anti-seatbelters who poke holes in them to damage their integrity and ‘stick it to the man!’? They’d probably also get super outraged if some famous person or politician made the news because they got a seatbelt ticket for not wearing one.

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    I live in Florida and the governor announced early on you did not have to be a resident to get the vaccine. My county has a big drive through appointment only site. After taking thousands of appointments they sent texts and emails last night oopsie. The 7,500 appointments this week alone are cancelled. No vaccines came. This is a huge Republican area where Trump held two huge rallies and Pence one. Trump loyalists are all over social media that they feel betrayed and they should get preferential treatment. The benefit of living with a lot of seniors is everyone has those socialist/communist programs of Medicare and Medicaid.
    I got my vaccination a few weeks ago. I went to Orlando where they were scheduling in blocks of 20,000-30,000 at a pop and the scheduling was on a difficult to get into and navigate website. Very efficient but it was only car accessible. As we were in line I did not see any people of color except those that were directing traffic or giving vaccines in true southern tradition.
    We have had very low virus in our area but post Thanksgiving it started creeping up. Christmas week until after New Years was full of families and friends from up North maskless, super excited about all the restaurants, bars and theme parks being open. Now our hospitals are bulging and deaths are skyrocketing. My friends who have social distanced/masked and spent the holidays alone are not infected that we know of.
    so I am meditating/praying for the safety of our medical workers and lawmakers. I just cannot grasp how anyone would not do anything they could to preserve the health and well being of everyone around them.
    I posted just about one year ago about how I agreed with Bae, 0ne of the first posters on this matter about how bad this would be.
    I am very sad about the discontent and hate I see all around me. About the fact that people actually thought they could overthrow the government. About the people who have suffered and died. But especially about the fact that our country has so many science deniers. Wash your hands, wear a mask, socially distance, eat right, get exercise and if you can, stay away from crowds and people. We are facing a raging pandemic, what scientists have warned us of for years.

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    Flowerseverywhere I think you hit the nail on the head with the link between holiday travel and surges. Mask wearing rates have been at constant rates where I am and do not explain these recent upticks. Travel does.

    Biden's mask mandate will not do anything either. It only applies to Federal land. I can see a corollary to my state, where anyone in public has to wear a mask regardless (though the governor himself does not in his news conferences). So I can foresee a situation where if I am hiking by myself in the backwoods of some national park I will be required to wear a mask. It's the same old failed solutions. There is no vision for new solutions like shutting down passenger air travel (except for medical temps like traveling ICU nurses.) Biden has no vision, his whole message is a return to the past from his programs to his appointees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    I wrote the other day about the escape mutant. Its name is E484K. Here is another reference to it since I know some people do not trust CNN:

    https://www.infectioncontroltoday.co...cine-resistant
    I saw more on TV today about how the South African mutant, now also found in Brazil, is much worse than the UK variant. Some countries are banning all travel to and from South America. Meanwhile in his first 100 days in office one thing Biden wants to do is remove travel bans.

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    That Biden travel ban removal has to do with Trump bans on travel from Muslim countries.

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    It wasn’t just the travel over thanksgiving and Christmas. It was the unmasked indoor house parties/dinners. Many many people like a friend of mine. He traveled to AZ for new years to visit his favorite aunt/uncle. Fifteen people at an indoor New Years party without masks. Guess how many came down with covid. Yep, all fifteen, all within a day or two of each other.

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    It turns out countries like South Korea and Japan have low covid deaths not because they are used to wearing masks but because few of their residents are obese:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9612626.html

    I was happy to read the UK is going to try to tackle covid by addressing obesity. If we had done this from the beginning people would have had almost a year to lose weight and we could have saved a lot of lives.

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    Japan
    Confirmed Cases
    324,942
    Deaths
    4,261

    South Korea
    Confirmed Cases
    72,340
    Deaths
    1,249

    U.S.
    Confirmed Cases
    23,758,855
    Deaths
    395,851

    And here is just California
    Confirmed Cases
    2,959,863
    Deaths
    33,408

    John Hopkins. Any questions? But go on with hating fat people. As if healthier people don't just get long covid instead of dying from it in some cases. WINNING! Although they may differ in how they classify deaths and cases, notice that there is NO CLEAR TREND in deaths per confirmed cases.
    Trees don't grow on money

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    Masks: https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/10...aff.2020.00818

    Successful counties (one of which is mine) that don’t listen to people like Yppej: https://247wallst.com/healthcare-eco...-one-had-died/

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