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    JP, metformin causes most people to lose weight. I have known people to lose between 50-100 lbs. They considered marketing it as a weight loss drug but didn’t because of the side effects. Some of the other diabetes drugs doctors are using for weight loss but when my friend inquired her doctor wouldn’t prescribe any of them because they also caused muscle loss. So many people are getting diabetes because of all the crap in our food including high fructose syrup. Many things in food are not allowed in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    JP, metformin causes most people to lose weight. I have known people to lose between 50-100 lbs. They considered marketing it as a weight loss drug but didn’t because of the side effects. Some of the other diabetes drugs doctors are using for weight loss but when my friend inquired her doctor wouldn’t prescribe any of them because they also caused muscle loss. So many people are getting diabetes because of all the crap in our food including high fructose syrup. Many things in food are not allowed in Europe.
    Perhaps if various institutions, including the government, weren't encouraging inadequate and frankly dangerous diets, we wouldn't be so far down the road. https://forums.mixedmartialarts.com/...eating/3755003

    Remember the famous Food Pyramid that told us we could eat eleven servings of whole grains every day, among other prescriptions?

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    I was prescribed metformin years ago and after researching everything I could find on it decided it was not the way to go. I am sure you did your due diligence and not just relied on the person prescribing! YLMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Perhaps if various institutions, including the government, weren't encouraging inadequate and frankly dangerous diets, we wouldn't be so far down the road. https://forums.mixedmartialarts.com/...eating/3755003

    Remember the famous Food Pyramid that told us we could eat eleven servings of whole grains every day, among other prescriptions?

    are you suggesting that The Science promoted by the government and Rachel Maddow is often flawed!?!!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    are you suggesting that The Science promoted by the government and Rachel Maddow is often flawed!?!!?
    I don't know what Rachel Maddow supports--I've never heard her hold forth on food science--but nutrition findings as promoted by various government agencies are seriously flawed, if not criminally corrupt. A minor hero of mine is Dr. Marcia Angell, who was an editor of the NEJM. She said the following:

    "...Similar conflicts of interest and biases exist in virtually every field of medicine, particularly those that rely heavily on drugs or devices. It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine ."
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I don't know what Rachel Maddow supports--I've never heard her hold forth on food science--but nutrition findings as promoted by various government agencies are seriously flawed, if not criminally corrupt. A minor hero of mine is Dr. Marcia Angell, who as an editor of the NEJM. She said the following:

    "...Similar conflicts of interest and biases exist in virtually every field of medicine, particularly those that rely heavily on drugs or devices. It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine ."
    Does anyone seriously think watermelon and Lucky Charms are more nutritious than meat and eggs? For God's sake, people!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    JP, metformin causes most people to lose weight. I have known people to lose between 50-100 lbs. They considered marketing it as a weight loss drug but didn’t because of the side effects. Some of the other diabetes drugs doctors are using for weight loss but when my friend inquired her doctor wouldn’t prescribe any of them because they also caused muscle loss. So many people are getting diabetes because of all the crap in our food including high fructose syrup. Many things in food are not allowed in Europe.
    Woah! If I lost 50-100 lbs I'd be skinnier than a holocaust victim. I was 155 before I started metformin and am 143 now. I'm happy at this weight and don't particularly want to lose any more. And probably won't. It's been steady at 143 for a couple of weeks now. I have no idea if the loss is from metformin, the reduction in carbs, or the fact that I'm also trying to shrink portions in general, which is a standard diabetes management strategy. Whatever the case I'll take it.

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    Obviously the people that lost that much weight were overweight but they all ended up skinny including my ex husband. I couldn’t believe that he was so skinny but I have known many people with the same experience.

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    Aldi has a number of items on sale though the end of the year. Butter is $2.99/lb locally. Limit 6. I’m going to be there when they open at 830

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tradd View Post
    Aldi has a number of items on sale though the end of the year. Butter is $2.99/lb locally. Limit 6. I’m going to be there when they open at 830
    Was just at Aldi's yesterday. Butter not on sale, but I did notice lower prices on the yogurt, cheeses, and a few other items. I'll have to keep an eye out on the butter prices.
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