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    As for anyone who thought quarantine was hard, oh yea, I seem to remember things like TALKING A WALK being perfectly legal under quarantine (or any implemented in the U.S. anyway). Now I'm under curfew where that is illegal, as leaving one's house for any and all purposes is.

    No I don't believe it will accomplish anything or anything positive anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    As someone who belongs to a minority whose effort at obtaining civil rights got a major boost after a few days or protesting and rioting (and setting a few things on fire) 51 years ago I tend to take a different view. It's been years since anyone (at least anyone whose opinions have any level of mainstream acceptance today) has called the Stonewall protestors thugs or hooligans (or whatever was the fashionable term back in the 70's and 80's and 90's). And in fact, every year, on the anniversary of those riots, in cities across the country and around the world we celebrate those riots and what they accomplished with big parades. My biggest hope is that it doesn't take the current rioters 51 years to achieve their goal.
    But they’ve been already been rioting for racial justice for 50+ years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    But they’ve been already been rioting for racial justice for 50+ years.
    All the more sad that they’ve failed to get people to care. Maybe this time enough shit will get burned down that they will succeed. Although I’m not holding my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I'm a big proponent of unions, but not when they protect the guilty, as police unions often do.

    I think the case that upsets me most is the Breonna Taylor case where police broke into her house while conducting a misguided and totally unnecessary raid, shot up the place and killed her--an EMT and aspiring nursing student--and wounded her partner. They had no idea the thugs invading their apartment weren't home invaders. But I guess they were, after all.
    The issue with Unions is they have to protect all their members. Innocent or guilty, or in one union I know, protect a member, whose goal it was, to be the worst person in the union. (not law enforcement)
    Their job is very much like a lawyers.
    The case you mention above, while that is one I am watching for information on (court takes time), I don't remember all the rioting and destruction in the street from it!
    Saw this meme, and remembering the saying, the best humor, has an element of truth to it:
    killercopriot.jpg

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    so now there is plans for a protest (possibly a riot) where my bf lives, the area is apolitical, so apolitical it makes you bemoan how little they care about politics, so it would be the first political interest they have ever shown there. But the agitators aren't local to the area, it's not a wealthy area, it's not even middle class, but not the poorest of the poor either. It's probably at least half Hispanic, many of them illegal immigrants. So yea great choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bae View Post
    In Seattle, people traveled to the protests from all over the state, presumably those folks might be considered "outside hooligans" if they stepped out of line, even if they had only come over from Bellevue.
    Admittedly, it's been several years, but as I visited Seattle often at that time, there seemed to me to be a pretty clear line drawn between Seattleites and people from Bellevue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToomuchStuff View Post
    The issue with Unions is they have to protect all their members. Innocent or guilty, or in one union I know, protect a member, whose goal it was, to be the worst person in the union. (not law enforcement)
    Their job is very much like a lawyers.
    The case you mention above, while that is one I am watching for information on (court takes time), I don't remember all the rioting and destruction in the street from it!
    Saw this meme, and remembering the saying, the best humor, has an element of truth to it:
    killercopriot.jpg
    I guess female victims don't count. Figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    As for anyone who thought quarantine was hard, oh yea, I seem to remember things like TALKING A WALK being perfectly legal under quarantine (or any implemented in the U.S. anyway). Now I'm under curfew where that is illegal, as leaving one's house for any and all purposes is.

    No I don't believe it will accomplish anything or anything positive anyway.
    Is that a local ordinance? Because I know a lot of Angelenos are walking and hiking, as are people in Oregon, and around here every evening. Walking is the new exercise craze with a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    Is that a local ordinance? Because I know a lot of Angelenos are walking and hiking, as are people in Oregon, and around here every evening. Walking is the new exercise craze with a lot of people.
    Many localities have put into place a curfew during these rioting times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Many localities have put into place a curfew during these rioting times.
    Ah--so for a few days, and at night. Gotcha.

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