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    Quote Originally Posted by Yppej View Post
    Would the protection rackets be like those run by the NYPD and unveiled by Serpico?
    I think it would be more like "Gangs of New York" where if you don't pay your monthly or weekly dues, your house may burn down and the local private fire brigade which doubles as local arsonists can't help you because you haven't paid your dues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    They haven't voted, they've issued a mission statement.
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    Numerous media sources are reporting a veto proof 9 out of 12 vote majority.
    You reported the vote before it was taken, but those goofy council members eventually did vote to disband their police department and replace it with "community based" public safety programs. I think that's code for gangs.

    I'll be travelling through The Badlands tomorrow but now I wonder if the South Dakota Badlands haven't been usurped in spirit by Minnesota Anarchists?
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    Yes, I don't see the absence of a police force as a healthy thing for a society, for the reasons everyone is mentioning.

    I do think having more money go to social services is a really good thing.

    But there will always be criminals who prey on those they perceive as weaker than they, often women.

    So you're going to get a corrupt system of private for pay police protection, and then we really are more like a third world country. In my opinion, anyway.

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    Or alternately, our future could look more like Europe where the police donít carry many weapons at all, and there are social services that are better funded. The choice isnít an all or nothing one between fully militarized police or local gangs. There are solutions in between those dichotomies.

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    Which would be ideal! So how does disbanding the police force lead to that kind of system? That's where I am not following.

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    If they mean what they say, and this isnít some superficial rebranding, why would anyone with something to lose stay in town? And if we see a flight from the city, where will the tax base come from for all that promised ďinvestment in the communityĒ? Havenít we seen this before?

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    Rob, do you want to get rid of the police in Phoenix, too?

    How will that look for crimes like rape, assault, and homocide?

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    Happystuff, I believe you would call your county sheriff as they serve the areas outside of municipal police service. Although depending on how funding us handled, they may not come.

    or if you know any of those second amendment guys - you could call them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tammy View Post
    Or alternately, our future could look more like Europe where the police donít carry many weapons at all, and there are social services that are better funded. The choice isnít an all or nothing one between fully militarized police or local gangs. There are solutions in between those dichotomies.
    Well put.

    The police just show up after the fact most of the time, and overall, they do as much harm as good, IMO, so root and branch reform is way overdue.

    We don't need an occupying military force on American soil, shaking down and brutalizing people with little or no provocation.

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    As Terry noted, a Co-Responder Program creates a response team consisting of a law enforcement officer and (riding along on the call) a behavioral health specialist. On certain calls, for example a suspected drug overdose, the tactics are intended to de-escalate the situation and to avoid the use of force to subdue the individual. Based on the judgement of the behavioral health specialist, the individual may be referred to immediate behavioral health assessment rather than arrest.

    The link is to the State of Colorado Co-Responder Program. In Colorado it is funded by taxes on the sale of marijuana. (Incidentally, a city may participate in the Co-Responder Program, without permitting the sale of cannabis.)

    http://colorado.gov/pacific/cdhs/co-responder-programs

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