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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    Just a couple of weeks ago I was completely appalled by the AOC news du jour about Yoho's verbal attack on her. I think she handled it beautifully, as her remarks on C-SPAN attest.

    AOC has three strikes against her before she even gets out of the dugout. 1. she's young. 2. she's female. 3. she's Hispanic.
    I couldn't count the really vile remarks I see on FB about her--remarks that have nothing to do with her politics. It's as if her election and her work and her life mean nothing--everyting she has done is negated by the circumstances of her birth. I have heard many males, family members included, call her dumb, dismiss her election to Congress, and use the same language Yoho used to describe her.

    So that is the frame of reference from which she has come to view the culture--one in which male successes make them a saint and earn them statues and one in which female successes make them reviled, or even worse, invisible.

    I know you males don't agree with me, but there it is. Shirley Chisholm (who had two strikes against her) said that in her life she was far more discriminated against on the basis of her gender than her race.
    I'm a woman and I think AOC is dumb. She makes stupid statements and seems to just be freaking clueless how gov't works.

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    Iris, some IL politician, think it's a state rep (but not sure off the top of my head) thinks that all American history should be stopped being taught in school until textbooks and curricula are revised.

    Can't find an article on it, but it was on the radio yesterday and this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    Yes. This Hawaiian King is also there, one of two statues chosen and donated by Hawaiians to represent their state.

    I had to read up on the Hall of Statuary.. The Hall of Statuary is a conceptual Hall, having expanded over decades due to overcrowding. Statues are now placed all over the Capitol grounds due to crowding in statuary hall. Each state is allowed two.


    My take on this is: while Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has a general point, specifically it’s none of her damn business what the state of Hawaii chooses to submit as a statue to represent themselves. Until she becomes an elected official of the state of Hawaii, she needs to tend to business for her own state. I think it’s nice that AOC and Trump and etc. have time to quack on about things irrelevant to their job.


    For the purpose of this topic, a gloss is needed for anyone reading up on it:


    AOC =Alexandria Ocasio- Cortez


    AOC= Architect of the Capital, the bureaucrat in charge of Statuary Hall


    Both are players in this game, And the acronym AOC is used interchangeably in articles about this issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Sorry, I don't gamble. I learned my lesson as a new Airman in the Air Force (probably before you were born). We were paid once per month and there were always a few poker and blackjack games going on in the barracks on payday. I lost two paychecks in a row and decided I wouldn't do that again, and I haven't.
    I’m not much of a gambler either. The last time I did so was when changing planes in Las Vegas. I had two quarters in my wallet. I put them in a slot machine and won $6. I scooped them into a cup and went to the nearest bar and bought myself a jumbo beer. Back when $6 was enough to pay for a jumbo beer and tip in an airport bar. I might be a bit older than you think I am...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    I’m not much of a gambler either. The last time I did so was when changing planes in Las Vegas. I had two quarters in my wallet. I put them in a slot machine and won $6. I scooped them into a cup and went to the nearest bar and bought myself a jumbo beer. Back when $6 was enough to pay for a jumbo beer and tip in an airport bar. I might be a bit older than you think I am...
    That lesson learned was in 1973.

    When I said I haven't gambled since that wasn't quite true. A couple of years ago we were on a west coast RV trip and on our return home we spent the night in Reno NV. There was a casino nearby which had the closest restaurant to our campsite. We went for dinner and before leaving decided to try our hands at the slots. I put in my $20 and was broke again within minutes. My wife put in her $20 and immediately went up $106.00. She promptly hit the cash out button, collected her winnings and we left. Total gambling time was less than 10 minutes, but dinner was free and she had a few dollars more upon leaving than when we arrived.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    That lesson learned was in 1973.

    When I said I haven't gambled since that wasn't quite true. A couple of years ago we were on a west coast RV trip and on our return home we spent the night in Reno NV. There was a casino nearby which had the closest restaurant to our campsite. We went for dinner and before leaving decided to try our hands at the slots. I put in my $20 and was broke again within minutes. My wife put in her $20 and immediately went up $106.00. She promptly hit the cash out button, collected her winnings and we left. Total gambling time was less than 10 minutes, but dinner was free and she had a few dollars more upon leaving than when we arrived.
    This is how I feel about my investment portfolio. I’ve been playing it for 35 years, things are good, I wanna cash out.

    I think slots are boring and I don’t see how anybody can sit there hour after hour doing it. However ! I CAN understand gambling addiction because I had just a hint of it decades ago. We were traveling I think to Florida? Don’t remember exactly it was somewhere south of here and there was an open air bar/restaurant that has some kind of game going on. I really do not remember the specifics of the game,But I remember being absolutely taken with it, spending time there, then going there after dinner, and even going out the next morning skipping breakfast to play. Creepy.

    I can also see how blackjack could be interesting although I’ve not played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I can also see how blackjack could be interesting although I’ve not played.
    I love the game, but that's how I lost 2 paychecks in a row 47 years ago. Loving it apparently doesn't require you to be good at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    That lesson learned was in 1973.

    When I said I haven't gambled since that wasn't quite true. A couple of years ago we were on a west coast RV trip and on our return home we spent the night in Reno NV. There was a casino nearby which had the closest restaurant to our campsite. We went for dinner and before leaving decided to try our hands at the slots. I put in my $20 and was broke again within minutes. My wife put in her $20 and immediately went up $106.00. She promptly hit the cash out button, collected her winnings and we left. Total gambling time was less than 10 minutes, but dinner was free and she had a few dollars more upon leaving than when we arrived.
    A year or so before my big Vegas win I had gone with my parents to check out the new casinos in Blackhawk Colorado. I had budgeted $20 to lose, but after half an hour I was ahead $15 so I quit. After my mom finally lost the last of the $20 she had budgeted I used my winnings to treat my parents to lunch at Subway and we went home. Not quite as nice as your dinner I'm sure! Considering that my two gambling experiences were wins (not counting the occasional megamillions ticket when the jackpot gets into the several hundred millions) it's kind of interesting that I haven't ever wanted to go try my luck again. Now if I am in a casino, which only happens if someone I'm with wants to go, I just watch.

    And I was definitely alive in 1973. I'm old enough to have been absolutely riveted to the news reports about the Patty Hearst trial on Walter Cronkite every night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    A year or so before my big Vegas win I had gone with my parents to check out the new casinos in Blackhawk Colorado. I had budgeted $20 to lose, but after half an hour I was ahead $15 so I quit. After my mom finally lost the last of the $20 she had budgeted I used my winnings to treat my parents to lunch at Subway and we went home. Not quite as nice as your dinner I'm sure! Considering that my two gambling experiences were wins (not counting the occasional megamillions ticket when the jackpot gets into the several hundred millions) it's kind of interesting that I haven't ever wanted to go try my luck again. Now if I am in a casino, which only happens if someone I'm with wants to go, I just watch.

    And I was definitely alive in 1973. I'm old enough to have been absolutely riveted to the news reports about the Patty Hearst trial on Walter Cronkite every night.
    I was a defender of Patty Hearst then and now. Girl was tortured and brain washed.she didn’t sign up to be a Vietcong prisoner like stock John McCain and I wouldn’t expect it of her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    And I was definitely alive in 1973. I'm old enough to have been absolutely riveted to the news reports about the Patty Hearst trial on Walter Cronkite every night.
    I appeared on the CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite in 1974. On April 3rd, 1974 the midwest was ravaged by tornadoes and one pretty much demolished the town of Monticello Indiana near where I was stationed at the time. Members of my Security Police unit were allowed to volunteer to respond to the city immediately following and help go through demolished buildings looking for survivors while also providing generators, portable lights, water, etc. (Federal troops working in a civilian community! OH MY!!) A CBS news crew arrived and filmed myself and several others working in the rubble and I was interviewed. That footage appeared on Walter Cronkite's show the next evening. I called my mother ahead of time and told her to watch, but she forgot. But maybe you saw me.
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