Child sex dolls

[razz]

My thinking is along the same line as Teacher Terry. Is there research that shows that when pedophiles get to act out their desires artificially it encourages them to want actual children? If so then these dolls should be outlawed. On the other hand if the research showed the opposite then they should be allowed.

My guess is that there’s no research at all. Pedophiles who have not acted on their desires can’t even seek mental healthcare without getting tangled up with the law so I would be seriously surprised if anyone has been able to do any meaningful research on prevention.

I would think the opposite. Confirmed pedophiles have acted, been arrested, charged and incarcerated for years. My understanding is that extensive therapy has been tried/used/explored to help these troubled people find ways to manage their thinking and behaviour. This type of research information about the use of plastic alternatives would help those who wished to manage their behaviour/thinking before committing the acts.

[iris lilies]

I have less faith in social science research and resulting government action than many here.

This is a clear instance of nonya business, Nanny G. Especially since Nanny gets it wrong too often.

[razz]

I have less faith in social science research and resulting government action than many here.

This is a clear instance of nonya business, Nanny G. Especially since Nanny gets it wrong too often.

So who gets it right? Who decides? The pedo or sexual abuse perpetrators? Come on, IL , you cannot move anywhere or do anything without a sense of direction and consequences so simply naysaying is blindness, naivety and foolishness, . Do you prefer thoughtfully defined roadways or just let everyone just do whatever they feel inclined to do and be 'dam*ed' the consequences.

FWIW, I don't think that social sciences have been the perfect answer but thoughtful discussion and consideration of the both the costs and opportunity costs of each choice is desirable.

[iris lilies]

So who gets it right? Who decides? The pedo or sexual abuse perpetrators? Come on, IL , you cannot move anywhere or do anything without a sense of direction and consequences so simply naysaying is blindness, naivety and foolishness, . Do you prefer thoughtfully defined roadways or just let everyone just do whatever they feel inclined to do and be 'dam*ed' the consequences.

FWIW, I don't think that social sciences have been the perfect answer but thoughtful discussion and consideration of the both the costs and opportunity costs of each choice is desirable.

No where do I say, as you are saying, that everyone “ Just [gets to do] whatever they feel.” You have ascribed a generalization to my specific concern about plastic dolls.

This is a small thing, this plastic doll. That’s why I’m shocked Nanny G gets involved. The government is doing a whole lot more than “discussion and consideration.” Any discussion and consideration shousld have died in legislative committee. There are state laws on the books outlawing dolls as contraband. I don’t know what federal restrictions here are in place.Other Countries have charged and jailed people for possessing them.

That is extreme.

I think that the Gubmnt need not have or exercise a “sense of direction” for everything in our lives. I want a government that is neutral about many things that citizens seem to think is the Business of gubmnt.

The reason you don’t hear libertarian talk shows is because there’s nothing to talk about!!!. Libertarians can’t get out raged about whatever issue is in front of us today because much of the time, it is not a libertarian concern. I fantasize about a libertarian talk show where the host says “today we will not be talking about (for example) child sex dolls and weed use by citizens because it is none of our Business.

At the federal level, we wont be talking about The sad state of affairs,in rioting St. Louis because that is not the business of the feds, the federal government needs to be neutral, this is state and local issue.

This dream talkshow of mine would of course be impossible because it has too much dead air space.Haha. Who would they sell advertising to?

[JaneV2.0]

For the most part, I agree with IrisLily. The recent vaping hysteria, for example, was an example of much ado about nothing. Ed Meese and his war on pornography had me rolling my eyes so hard it hurt. We have more pressing problems in this country that should be addressed.

[ToomuchStuff]

So I was wondering about pedophiles who buy sex dolls that look like children. Are there such things? Who makes them? Would anyone admit to buying one? And etc.
So, imagine my surprise to find out that these objects are outlawed in many states in many countries as Outlawed child pornographic material.

I am surprised! That seems like extreme government overreach to me. Some guy in
Australia was convicted for buying a doll formed like a child. But Australia isn’t the only place that has banned this plastic product.

Don't you have to be convicted to get the term pedophile?
If not convicted, then when it crosses from some fantasy, to actual deviant behavior?
What about a doll, that is in children's clothing? (life size, little person sized, etc)
I remember a adult video series, years back, about a porn trial, in which one of the scenes, the actress dressed as a child. (Pauly Shore's girlfriend, at the time, before she killed herself)

Then you have those that have been convicted (know one), that go on sex tours to third world countries. Also know one in prison for child porn on their computer. (semi relative)
In the other country talk, well you will need to get into specifics, with their laws and constitutional rights, issues.

[JaneV2.0]

I'd be interested to know what happens to people who buy lifelike dolls and dismember them. Are they tried for a crime?

Could brothers of Barbie owners could be tried as adults for this?.

[ToomuchStuff]

I'd be interested to know what happens to people who buy lifelike dolls and dismember them. Are they tried for a crime?

Could brothers of Barbie owners could be tried as adults for this?.

Civilly, for destruction of private property, if the sibling pressed charges and the statue of limitations isn't up.

[iris lilies]

I'd be interested to know what happens to people who buy lifelike dolls and dismember them. Are they tried for a crime?

Could brothers of Barbie owners could be tried as adults for this?.

hahahah, this is hilarious! Good analogy, and funny to boot.

[jp1]

I never hurt my sister's barbie. I loved playing with it more than she did. She went camping with my GI Joe doll in his tonka motorhome.