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    Quote Originally Posted by dado potato View Post
    To me, it was encouraging to hear how the voting went, and to sample the emotions... which can run deep when people cast their ballots. So I thank all who contributed to this thread.

    I was just a kid when I read The Loyalty of Free Men, by Alan Barth. And incidentally I found the book on my father's bookshelf. Dad "liked Ike". I feel a stirring to find a copy of the book and read it again, with men, women and gender-fluid persons in mind..
    My family liked Ike, too--and he was worlds away for what passes for Republican these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    My family liked Ike, too--and he was worlds away for what passes for Republican these days.
    There have definitely been some stellar Republicans. Teddy Roosevelt and Lincoln come to mind, as well as Eisenhower. Can't think of any beyond that. I liked Reagan's optimism and joie de vivre, but certainly not his economic policies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    My family liked Ike, too--and he was worlds away for what passes for Republican these days.
    Yes, although as I understand it just about everything evolves. Back in Ike's day Democrats were still trying to enforce segregation and electing Klansmen so they've seemingly evolved a little too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Yes, although as I understand it just about everything evolves. Back in Ike's day Democrats were still trying to enforce segregation and electing Klansmen so they've seemingly evolved a little too.
    And now they seem to have all moved onto the Republican side. Yes, everything evolves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happystuff View Post
    And now they seem to have all moved onto the Republican side. Yes, everything evolves.
    Lots of people and institutions construct narratives to separate themselves from their history. The "they became Republicans" one is a good example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Lots of people and institutions construct narratives to separate themselves from their history. The "they became Republicans" one is a good example.
    Yes, I expect to see quite a bit of that going on in the coming days, weeks, months, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Lots of people and institutions construct narratives to separate themselves from their history. The "they became Republicans" one is a good example.
    Well they obviously didn't vanish into thin air. Where did they go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    Well they obviously didn't vanish into thin air. Where did they go?
    A lot of them died of old age and the remainder changed their strategy of control from brute force to economic stimulation, which has proven a more effective way to engender political support while keeping the masses in line. That and a several generation long PR campaign to define themselves as moral crusaders and everyone else as racists has even given them a false sense of superiority. A genius move I think, shallow and misguided, but genius.
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    Here’s something that shows how quickly labels change their meaning:

    https://www.history.com/topics/us-po...publican-party

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    Quote Originally Posted by catherine View Post
    There have definitely been some stellar Republicans. Teddy Roosevelt and Lincoln come to mind, as well as Eisenhower. Can't think of any beyond that. I liked Reagan's optimism and joie de vivre, but certainly not his economic policies.
    The economy--despite what Republicans want you to believe--always does better under Democratic administrations:
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/realspi...h=6a418b466786

    Except for the oligarch overclass, maybe. But they're a tiny minority.

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