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    Agreed. Democracies are notoriously susceptible to horrendous majority decisions. Republics are supposed to protect us from that. At least in theory.

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    What's so much better about being subjected to horrendous minority decisions? It seems significantly worse.
    If you want something to get done, ask a busy person. If you want them to have a nervous breakdown that is.

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    Trump is trying to figure out how to steal the election which is really no surprise given his past. I hope I live long enough to see the popular vote decide the presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Why?

    I often think that people whose ego demands a direct voice to the Federal government without the burden of state and local middle-men (Representatives) were the basis of Benjamin Franklin's retort when asked what type of government they'd created. He said "A Republic, if we can keep it."
    https://archive3.fairvote.org/reform...toral-college/

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    For 225 years or so we have followed the plan of electing our representatives to decide for us. If we want to change that to a direct democracy, we could give it a whirl.

    We do need to remind ourselves though that our republic and our electoral college is our historical and current system. Both Bush #2 and Trump won the electoral college. It might frustrate us to know they both lost the popular vote, but they did win the elections in our current system.

    I did not support either one. I was mad they won. But our system was followed ... we shouldn’t act like it wasn’t followed, as we are not set up to be a direct democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    I was curious about what you thought about electoral college vs popular vote, but not enough to follow a series of random links.

    Rather than post "Obviously it is time for change" followed by a link to someone else's thoughts I'd like to hear why you think it's so obvious.
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    I would imagine a “bird lives matter” t-shirt would not meet universal approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    I was curious about what you thought about electoral college vs popular vote, but not enough to follow a series of random links.

    Rather than post "Obviously it is time for change" followed by a link to someone else's thoughts I'd like to hear why you think it's so obvious.
    I am not going to repeat the LIST of reasons. The are there in black and white,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogar View Post
    I would imagine a “bird lives matter” t-shirt would not meet universal approval.
    It does with me!

    They are a harbinger.

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