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    Yet another Trump sign went up today

    I live on a street of mostly senior residents and one by one they are putting up their Trump Pence signs. There are even guys in pickups driving around with large Trump flags waving in back. I don't do signs or make my political beliefs known to neighbors but I have to wonder what the great appeal is. His lifetime actions have shown him to be morally wretched and I don't see where his four years in office have moved us in a positive direction. Is it the oft repeated radical left/socialism line that pulls them in? It just baffles me so perhaps someone with a more conservative point of view can splain it to me???

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    One point to consider that he has done things he said he would do. NAFTA replacement deal? Done. Crack down on trade issues with China? Done. Two just things. He focuses a lot on the economy, plus law and order.

    The Dems have gone all "woke" and "white people/cops bad" while cities have been burned and looted. Crime up in some areas. I'll be frank, some of the Dems just seem to be stoking the flames.

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    I think he appeals to
    a) people who are emotionally tied to the status quo
    b) people who really believe he's a disrupter who can "drain the swamp"
    c) entertainment value: he's like the bully or the b*tch with the one-liners you wish you had the nerve to say

    I just spoke with my brother and we always tread lightly into politics. He HATES what he's seeing with BLM and protests and vandalism, and the out-of-control nature of the world right now makes him seek comfort in someone who promises they will steady the boat. The lies don't matter. The cruelty doesn't matter. The divisiveness doesn't matter. MAGA is still the watchword, and "greatness" means "keep my world exactly the same" even if it means other things, like rights of others or the environment or even our democracy, will regress.

    ETA: I agree with Tradd that Dems sometimes don't get it.
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    Some supporters I know like his stand on guns or abortion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    I don't do signs or make my political beliefs known to neighbors but I have to wonder what the great appeal is.
    I don't do signs in my yard either, I did during the Bush years and suffered through our suburban liberals shooting paint balls at the signs and the house. No more of that for me.

    Personally I don't see much Trump appeal, although I do see a great need to keep Democrats out of power. They're so beholden to the use of government to enforce the social norms they'd like to see I'm afraid for free thinkers. The liberals seem to see conservatives as the embodiment of The Handmaid's Tale while progressive actions seem to me the embodiment of Chairman Mao's re-education camps. I think we're much closer to the latter than the former.
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    The funny thing is that he has no principles of his own, he's just adopted Republican ones to gain access to their base. Except for racism, he's full-on into that.

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    This is the type of stuff that pushes people to Trump/GOP.

    https://www.fox4news.com/news/protes...las-restaurant

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    Yes, by all means let's shut down BLM protests and sweep the whole issue back under the rug where it belongs. /sarcasm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jane v2.0 View Post
    Yes, by all means let's shut down BLM protests and sweep the whole issue back under the rug where it belongs. /sarcasm
    I don't think anyone wants to shut down peaceful protests, it's just that the protests don't stay peaceful. And on top of that local prosecutors have been cowed into submission which ensures there's little to no consequences to that violence.

    The other problem is in many of the events which trigger this violence, people of a certain political persuasion are more inclined to accept a self serving narrative rather than the facts of the event. Then those otherwise well meaning people latch onto the narrative en masse and use it to support a demand of retribution rather than justice. In the long run, that's not a winning strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    I live on a street of mostly senior residents and one by one they are putting up their Trump Pence signs. There are even guys in pickups driving around with large Trump flags waving in back. I don't do signs or make my political beliefs known to neighbors but I have to wonder what the great appeal is. His lifetime actions have shown him to be morally wretched and I don't see where his four years in office have moved us in a positive direction. Is it the oft repeated radical left/socialism line that pulls them in? It just baffles me so perhaps someone with a more conservative point of view can splain it to me???
    Trump is essentially a backlash politician. In 2016, I think a lot of people voted for him to give the finger to the condescending, intolerably smug disdain of the Left. In the seemingly unlikely event he wins in 2020, I think it may largely be due to disgust with all the violence at those mostly peaceful demonstrations. Itís a snobs and mobs thing.

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