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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    How do you figure?
    How do you dispute?
    "Things should be made as simple as possible, but not one bit simpler." ~ Albert Einstein

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    Not relevant to now.
    I think an educated person should try to see how the past can inform the present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I think an educated person should try to see how the past can inform the present.
    I think reverberations from the event I mentioned are still quite relevant today, and appear on the news constantly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    How do you dispute?
    You first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I think an educated person should try to see how the past can inform the present.
    In some cases, yes. Not all. An educated person would understand that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    In some cases, yes. Not all. An educated person would understand that.
    I think it within the realm of possibility that a person familiar with the period could in fact draw many parallels between today and the mid nineteenth century. The stark regional differences. The hardening of positions on ideological lines. The incivility (and even violence) in the halls of Congress. Violent mobs. Groups formed to intimidate political opponents. A press more interested in persuading than informing the public.

    I think you are too quick to declare the era irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    How do you figure?
    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    How do you dispute?
    Quote Originally Posted by frugal-one View Post
    You first.
    Gosh, getting an answer from you is difficult, but I'll play.

    As a nation of states comprising a Federal Republic, virtually all US States and many localities have taken it upon themselves to fulfill the 2016 Paris agreement pledge of reducing greenhouse emissions by 26% to 28% of 2005 levels by 2025. In the 4 years since the agreement the US has achieved nearly 40% of that goal without the force of a central government mandate and there is reason to believe nearly 100% compliance by the 2025 deadline. Most other signatories to the agreement aren't doing as well.

    Your turn.
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    Curse you Alan with your facts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I think he is more of a PT Barnum wannabe.
    No. He’s a hitler wannabe that is actually more pt Barnum In reality. Although we’ll have to wait until this reality show is over for a final verdict. He isnt done yet.

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    I believe the argument is that with the U.S. in the agreement there would be more pressure for other states to comply and so therefore performance of other states without the U.S. in the agreement is not a proxy for performance if it was.

    This assumes the U.S. as a good faith actor of course, it isn't always.
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