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    My son was saying that trump has really exposed how easily some people are led so it would be much worse if we had a smart, evil, charismatic leader that could actually become a dictator. Luckily for us Trump was just evil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teacher Terry View Post
    My son was saying that trump has really exposed how easily some people are led
    Yes.. it is truly scary--you only have to look at Nazi Germany to see an example with horrific consequences.

    I always go back to the astounding example of Jane Elliott. I watched it when it was initially broadcast in 1992 and my mouth dropped open. In 30 minutes she was able to convince Oprah's studio audience that brown-eyed people were superior to blue-eyed people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I love it we can settle in for the next four years in stasis. Republican Senate, opposite side in the White House. Lovely! That’s the way I like my life to be and I’m not being sarcastic here. Check and checkmate in D.C. Of course the White House can always rule by regulation so that is not a happy thought.
    We will see a lot of Executive Order and regulatory fiat actions, as well as accusations of obstructionism. Some will end up in the courts.

    The House will initiate a lot of aspirational bills with little chance of passage in the hope of showing voters all the good things the GOP is thwarting.

    Trump’s improved showing among voters of color may encourage more GOP outreach to minorities.

    A debate has already begun in the Democratic Party between moderates who question the electoral value of “defund the police”, unabashed socialism and identity politics and the more radical elements. A House leadership fight would be an early indication of that.

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    I've long wondered why apparently level-headed people like the Germans allowed Hitler and his ilk to take power so easily. Incremental moves, fiery "rallies," "othering" groups of people...But I never thought I'd be here when it happened to us. I'm appalled by how many seem to want to be led by someone as patently unfit as Trump.

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    I've been mostly listening to BBC Radio (Radio 5 Live and Radio 4) for election coverage. One commentator mentioned this morning that the Dems keep thinking of blacks or Latinos as monolithic groups, which hurt them. I know Dems who are just flabbergasted that both black and Latino vote counts were higher for Trump this time. Some of that would be from higher turnout this time.

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    *Biden actually made a comment during the campaign that if you're black, you HAVE to vote for him.

    *Latinos come from many different countries. Their experiences won't be the same. Some families have been in the US for a long time, and so being further away from immigration (as in generations), immigration is not as important, or even on their radar, as it is for more recent immigrants. Mention of communism hits a big nerve with the Cubans community in the Miami area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I've long wondered why apparently level-headed people like the Germans allowed Hitler and his ilk to take power so easily. Incremental moves, fiery "rallies," "othering" groups of people...But I never thought I'd be here when it happened to us. I'm appalled by how many seem to want to be led by someone as patently unfit as Trump.
    What better way to “other” people than to liken them to Nazis?

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    I like Al Jazeera and Reuters, along with other sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iris lilies View Post
    I love it we can settle in for the next four years in stasis. Republican Senate, opposite side in the White House. Lovely! That’s the way I like my life to be and I’m not being sarcastic here. Check and checkmate in D.C. Of course the White House can always rule by regulation so that is not a happy thought.
    The senate is not yet settled. And won't be until January it appears since both GA seats appear to be headed towards runoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jp1 View Post
    The senate is not yet settled. And won't be until January it appears since both GA seats appear to be headed towards runoff.
    Now that will be high drama. You have to feel for all those county clerks trying to count votes with the whole world peering over their shoulders.

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    Tradd: A black friend of mine (Trump supporter) was extremely indignant over the Biden remark that you referenced. I think it was somewhat intended as a witticism, but it did not go over well. Some folks just cannot do humor. In a similar vein, imagine what a short book The Wit and Wisdom of Donald Trump would be?

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