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    Sounds familiar. For about 20 years I used advair and the last half of the time it was all my cost unless I had reached my several thousand dollar deductible that year. So 80% of the time, for a decade, I paid 350 a month for advair. More than a car payment.

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    That’s terrible Tammy.

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    The USA medical system is ridiculous. I was ensured with the best health insurance through my work all that time.

    There are psych meds that cost over $1000 a month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tammy View Post
    The USA medical system is ridiculous. I was ensured with the best health insurance through my work all that time.

    There are psych meds that cost over $1000 a month.
    I wonder what they cost to manufacture--50 cents? A dollar? Pharma probably got their R & D free--or nearly so--via a university somewhere. Of course they still have to pay for the incessant TV spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaneV2.0 View Post
    I wonder what they cost to manufacture--50 cents? A dollar? Pharma probably got their R & D free--or nearly so--via a university somewhere. Of course they still have to pay for the incessant TV spots.
    Having worked in pharma for a dozen years I can affirm there's a little more to the expense picture than that. Granted I'm only familiar with a small company with a half dozen products but in my experience you have to hire an army of quality control, quality assurance, auditors, microbiologists, chemists, chemical engineers, mechanical engineers, validation staff, maintenance personnel, etc., for each product. At the same time you need to build out your manufacturing space, engineer and design custom equipment, bring in a host of consultants to assist in specific areas as you test and validate every piece of equipment and process, all the while producing and disposing of product as you tweak your processes to meet GMP and FDA guidelines. Finally, after a 5 to 7 year wait, you may or may not receive FDA approval for your product. If you do receive approval, your first batch of product may have cost hundreds of millions of dollars to produce, if you do not receive approval, those hundreds of millions of dollars are reassigned to another product.

    It's an expensive business.
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    I’ve been surprised at how many progressive pundits have been rushing to the op-ed barricades out of fear that the public might be impressed with how quickly “Big Pharma” developed and tested the vaccines coming on line. From the anti-vaccine and anti-capitalism fringes to the more mainstream medical socialism types, they seem eager to downplay the achievement.

    I say three cheers for Pharma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDAHL View Post
    I’ve been surprised at how many progressive pundits have been rushing to the op-ed barricades out of fear that the public might be impressed with how quickly “Big Pharma” developed and tested the vaccines coming on line. From the anti-vaccine and anti-capitalism fringes to the more mainstream medical socialism types, they seem eager to downplay the achievement.

    I say three cheers for Pharma.
    When my liberal Mother used to start her rant about big Pharma, I often told her hey mom, just buy some sPharma stock then if they’re making so much money. Go get in on that deal. She didn’t have an answer for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    Having worked in pharma for a dozen years I can affirm there's a little more to the expense picture than that. Granted I'm only familiar with a small company with a half dozen products but in my experience you have to hire an army of quality control, quality assurance, auditors, microbiologists, chemists, chemical engineers, mechanical engineers, validation staff, maintenance personnel, etc., for each product. At the same time you need to build out your manufacturing space, engineer and design custom equipment, bring in a host of consultants to assist in specific areas as you test and validate every piece of equipment and process, all the while producing and disposing of product as you tweak your processes to meet GMP and FDA guidelines. Finally, after a 5 to 7 year wait, you may or may not receive FDA approval for your product. If you do receive approval, your first batch of product may have cost hundreds of millions of dollars to produce, if you do not receive approval, those hundreds of millions of dollars are reassigned to another product.

    It's an expensive business.
    So these companies receive no outside funding - grants, donations, government financing, etc. - at all during any stage of the process?
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    Quote Originally Posted by happystuff View Post
    So these companies receive no outside funding - grants, donations, government financing, etc. - at all during any stage of the process?
    The one I'm familiar with didn't. The closest we came was a small state tax abatement over a 5 year period, given to assist in a $50M expansion project, including 100 new jobs, for a product expansion that 7 years later still hasn't been granted FDA approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan View Post
    The one I'm familiar with didn't. The closest we came was a small state tax abatement over a 5 year period, given to assist in a $50M expansion project, including 100 new jobs, for a product expansion that 7 years later still hasn't been granted FDA approval.
    Interesting. Thanks.
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