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    What do you mean by "the far right"?

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    It’s a good question and it’s ok for any audience to consider. No questions are off the table when our democracy is at stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tammy View Post
    It’s a good question and it’s ok for any audience to consider. No questions are off the table when our democracy is at stake.
    Tammy, tell me what the far right wants then go for it babe.

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    By far right, I mean those who hold extreme black and white beliefs. Those who ride around my neighborhood in big, loud trucks with Trump flags. Us vs them ideals. Calling others "socialists". When Trump was running for prez, I asked this forum what does "make America great again" mean anyway? And I still don't know what that means unless we agree to agree. Since it wasn't the far left who stormed the capitol bldg, I mention "far right" in particular.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    By far right, I mean those who hold extreme black and white beliefs. Those who ride around my neighborhood in big, loud trucks with Trump flags. Us vs them ideals. Calling others "socialists". When Trump was running for prez, I asked this forum what does "make America great again" mean anyway? And I still don't know what that means unless we agree to agree. Since it wasn't the far left who stormed the capitol bldg, I mention "far right" in particular.
    Are you willing to have long conversations On multiple occasions with these people you say are driving around your neighborhood with loud trucks and Trump flags? In relaxed social atmosphere, I think that would be a good way to find out what they really “want. “

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    Actually, over the past year DH has gone in that direction so we have daily "conversations" where I try to understand his viewpoint. Although he doesn't personally like Trump, he defends his actions which is very upsetting to me. It all sounds like the usual rhetoric - here lately, that many votes were fraudulent. I have asked him to consider his news sources and at least give critical thought to what he is choosing to believe. Some days it feels like someone put something in the water since I just don't get the purpose of being angry all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    Actually, over the past year DH has gone in that direction so we have daily "conversations" where I try to understand his viewpoint. Although he doesn't personally like Trump, he defends his actions which is very upsetting to me. It all sounds like the usual rhetoric - here lately, that many votes were fraudulent. I have asked him to consider his news sources and at least give critical thought to what he is choosing to believe. Some days it feels like someone put something in the water since I just don't get the purpose of being angry all the time.
    Do you think your DH is far right or just rightish? I would think you could get quite a few ideas from him about what the right wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkytoe View Post
    By far right, I mean those who hold extreme black and white beliefs.
    Well, I suppose if you get to create your own definition, you can then engage that caricatured subset of people, but...

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    It is quite likely that some of them are just functionally insane. Pumped up with ridiculous conspiracy theories etc. They want the end to a non-existent pedophile ring. What they want could never be delivered in reality then (which is different than wanting bad things, which is bad enough but).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApatheticNoMore View Post
    It is quite likely that some of them are just functionally insane. Pumped up with ridiculous conspiracy theories etc. They want the end to a non-existent pedophile ring. What they want could never be delivered in reality then (which is different than wanting bad things, which is bad enough but).
    I wonder about this. Where have all these gullible people come from? I understand Breitbart, QAnon, 8Chan, and others are heavily promoting these--often Russian-generated*--wild-assed fables, but why don't people just snort and turn away? This is a mystery to me.

    *As has been the case with many recent conspiracy theories, from the dangers supposedly posed by GMOs to some of the far-right messaging that helped elect Donald Trump, Russia has assiduously promoted misinformation with the intent of undermining trust in science and Western institutions generally.

    Putin’s propaganda channels RT and Sputnik offer well-produced news-style broadcasts that serve to give legitimacy to conspiracy theories by airing them to a worldwide audience in slick-looking studio formats. As Wired has reported, as long ago as January 2019 RT was airing segments on 5G where its “correspondent,” Michele Greenstein, warned that 5G “might kill you.”
    (from https://allianceforscience.cornell.e...piracy-theory/

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